The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
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The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
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Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#2I understand the gripes OP is having. But as a maintainer, it's also downright exhausting to have so many people complaining about random quirky missing features or setups that I can't replicate.
If you can contribute improvements in a low-friction way, I will happily improve it. But if you're just going to complain ...
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#3I understand the gripes OP is having. But as a maintainer, it's also downright exhausting to have so many people complaining about random quirky missing features or setups that I can't replicate. If you can contribute improvements in a low-friction way, I will happily improve it. But if you're just going to complain ...
I'm a product manager in my day job - and, I guess the gripe I have with FOSS stuff, is they're all too often designed as expert systems - which is great, super powerful, lots of control, but not suited to the workflows actual users just want to do out of the box.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#4I understand the gripes OP is having. But as a maintainer, it's also downright exhausting to have so many people complaining about random quirky missing features or setups that I can't replicate. If you can contribute improvements in a low-friction way, I will happily improve it. But if you're just going to complain ...
I'm a product manager in my day job - and, I guess the gripe I have with FOSS stuff, is they're all too often designed as expert systems - which is great, super powerful, lots of control, but not suited to the workflows actual users just want to do out of the box.
"FOSS stuff" encompasses tons of software, from 1980s emacs distros to 2020-era GNOME music players. And the simple, workflow-focused FOSS tools I use are great.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#5I understand the gripes OP is having. But as a maintainer, it's also downright exhausting to have so many people complaining about random quirky missing features or setups that I can't replicate. If you can contribute improvements in a low-friction way, I will happily improve it. But if you're just going to complain ...
I'm a product manager in my day job - and, I guess the gripe I have with FOSS stuff, is they're all too often designed as expert systems - which is great, super powerful, lots of control, but not suited to the workflows actual users just want to do out of the box.
Category error. FOSS is typically not made for consumers to use directly. At least, not the source code. Downloadable binaries, that's another thing.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#6I know that it strikes most people as faintly ridiculous if not outright dangerous to talk about anti-white-male sentiment, but can we at least stop kowtowing to it? Like, sure, "first-world problems", I get it. But there is constant vitriol spewing from certain (for lack of a better phrase) intellectual cliques, and it's gotten tiresome.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#7I know that it strikes most people as faintly ridiculous if not outright dangerous to talk about anti-white-male sentiment, but can we at least stop kowtowing to it? Like, sure, "first-world problems", I get it. But there is constant vitriol spewing from certain (for lack of a better phrase) intellectual cliques, and it's gotten tiresome.
It's pretty clearly ragebait. I don't think the author is making a good-faith plea here.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#8"Talk to any FOSS acolyte about something and the conversation will often go like this:
You: I'm having a problem with [proprietary software], I'm really frustrated.
Them: scoffs I don't have that problem because I use a custom rom dinglebop shitfuck linux distro that allows me to [technical jargon that you don't know or care about]
You: uhm, okay. Could you give me a recommendation that'll allow me to replicate my workflow in [proprietary program] ?
Them: Uhm yeah (sends you a program that is incredibly hard to set up and cannot replicate your workflow at all)
You: I don't really understand how this works? Them: okay well post in the discord
You: posts in discord Uhm people were just really rude to me and told me to just read the forums.... I watched some tutorials but they're all like 2 hours long and this is a lot of information."
The author doesn't come off well at all here, and that's while they're talking to a strawman. They sound like an entitled child.
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#9A lot of moralizing for someone who “doesn’t believe in morality.”
Re: The FOSS community acts like a cult and it's not helping the cause
#10I understand the gripes OP is having. But as a maintainer, it's also downright exhausting to have so many people complaining about random quirky missing features or setups that I can't replicate. If you can contribute improvements in a low-friction way, I will happily improve it. But if you're just going to complain ...
There's an impedance mismatch between what developers want (work on advanced features & clean code) and users want (have a product that fits their specific workflow then gets out of the way).
This is solved by users giving the developers money so the developer will do what the user wants. Sometimes a business sits in the middle to facilitate this transaction.
I've almost never seen FOSS figure out a good way of fixing this mismatch. The rare exceptions are when people derive intrinsic joy from getting marketshare against an evil corporation. Or Space Station 13, which let anyone add half-baked broken features and the interaction between it all was part of the fun.