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Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

#41

You let them oust Brendan Eich. I have no sympathy whatsoever because you let the charlatans into the project and now you’re complaining. Nobody stood up for Brendan. Nobody is going to stand up for you.

I have to wonder, who are you talking to?

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Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

It's incredible the whining about AI when you can simply turn it off. The speed comparisons make no sense either. Chrome is slightly faster so you should give up your ability to block all ads and let Google abuse you in myriad ways while supporting a virtual monopoly? FFS. Firefox is simply a better browser, hands down. It's a better design and more user friendly than Chrome. I only regret being on Chrome for so long…

As long as it can be turned off, I will remain a user. I've been a user of this lineage of browser since Netscape. I've got its features baked into muscle memory. But I have no interest in the overhead nor the distractions of AI integration. I guess it remains to be seen how feverently the new CEO wants to alienate the existing userbase.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

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Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

If anything, it's the powerusers that disable Firefox's telemetry so that they don't know how the power users use Firefox. (Guiltily raises hand. Although lately I've noticed a ping option, so I left that enabled.)

On the other hand, maybe it was a mistake for the industry to start leaning so hard on telemetry. While it can provide useful insights in some cases, telemetry is best positioned as secondary or even tertiary in the decision-making process, because it doesn’t tell anywhere close the whole story and requires a great deal of error-prone interpretation to act upon.

To be frank, I find that use of analytics as the primary determiner to be incredibly intellectually lazy. They’re being used as a stand-in for deep, holistic thought in product design, user research, 1:1 interviews with users, etc when they shouldn’t be, and it’s making software as a whole much crappier than it needs to be.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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What is the next best alternative to throw support behind? I did a very shallow search and the forks of Firefox I found don't appear to be actively maintained.

I can't speak to the quality of any of these, but these all appear to be forks of Firefox that are still receiving updates as of the last few weeks:

https://www.waterfox.com/

https://librewolf.net/

https://floorp.app/

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