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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by account42 » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:49 AM UTC

ekr____ wrote: post #321

bachmeier wrote: post #69

Oh, let's see who's going to be the leader of the organization that's going to save privacy on the internet. Bet he has a track record of valuing free information and user privacy. Wait, just like the last CEO, the only way to find out anything about him is a LinkedIn page. I'd have to create an account, log in, and consent to letting them collect and do anything they want with my information. Apparently Mozilla does…

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/leadership/#anthony-enzo...

Is he even real? Probably just bad filters but that picture looks almost AI generated.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:06 AM UTC

account42 wrote: post #939

lotsofpulp wrote: post #756

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Supporting one of two candidates in a first past the post election is simply supporting the lesser evil. There is no other information to glean.

Same goes for CEOs.

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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by account42 » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:14 AM UTC

lenerdenator wrote: post #232

Mozilla needs to get back to just being a browser project with foundation-based corporate governance. I don't get why everything has to include the latest trend. Do what the Linux kernel project does: be a bazaar. If someone wants to create deeper AI integration into Firefox, they'll pick up that task, put it in a branch, and the community will discuss whether it merits inclusion in the main. If it does, it'll be the…

Yes but then how do you justify a multi-million dollar CEO salary.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by yupyupyups » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:21 AM UTC

DonHopkins wrote: post #916

yupyupyups wrote: post #177

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In a liberal context, marriage means nothing except for being a symbol of a union between two people. But all rules, obligations and rights that make marriage a meaningful institution are rooted in religion, and are hence not always respected outside of religion. You could argue that there are laws that only apply to married couples, and that THAT brings meaning to marriage. But: Firstly, generally speaking, even the…

So you're also against Atheist Marriage, then?

Of course not.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by amrocha » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 12:46 PM UTC

account42 wrote: post #937

amrocha wrote: post #896

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Would it be wrong to refuse to hire a neonazi? What kind of people do you think your organization will attract if you start hiring neonazis?

Ones that are sane enough not to bring culture war drama to the office.

I guess “kill all jews” is culture war drama now

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by psd1 » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 1:03 PM UTC

0x000xca0xfe wrote: post #92

lalaland1125 wrote: post #67

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It's not really possible to do that when the opposing beliefs are so fundamental. Mozilla had, and has, a lot of LGBT staff. How could you expect those staff to work under and trust a CEO opposed to their very existence as equal members of society?

What's so fundamental about marriage? I don't think childless couples (of any gender) should get any societal advantages yet I have no problem working with people that disagree. Why has everything to be black-or-white, left-or-right, with us or against us? That's not a productive way to think about others.

If you think for a moment, you'll realise that it's irrelevant whether marriage is important to you - it's important to many.

So when a person wishes to deny this important institution to a minority, they are creating an out-group and discriminating against them.

By that logic, we can put those discriminators themselves in an out-group and discriminate against them. We can deny them institutions such as directorships. Fair's fair.

It's more than fair - despite what conversion camps want to sell, being queer is an intransigent characteristic. Being a bully is just a choice. Discriminating against bullies is as morally just as discriminating against the incompetent.

Obviously it's fine to campaign against marriage.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by jmiskovic » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 5:01 PM UTC

NothingAboutAny wrote: post #800

jmiskovic wrote: post #774

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I find it very hard to believe that either every site you interact with works exactly as you want it to work, or that you have the time/capacity to adjust them all with custom extensions. I get that there are downsides but you don't see any upsides?

I have extensions for the sites that need them and everything else is fine? occasionally I guess there'll be something in another language I want translated but I just copy paste the text into google translate or similar. what sites out there are so unusable you'd need an LLM to fix them for use?

Right now all the sites I frequent are good enough, otherwise I'd drop them. I don't interact with Discord, Bluesky, X, Instagram at all, and I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of high quality interpersonal communication because I have low tolerance for their UX and their lack of respect for users.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by smaudet » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 5:02 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #850

smaudet wrote: post #775

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Not at all. To clarify, saying something is "over", without really saying what your plan is, is low effort. "This is a problem, and here is what I/we should do", takes a bit more effort. Firefox is still open source last I checked. You can still contribute, write bugs, write letters to the CEO, etc... I'm only taking issue with tendency people have to throw shade without offering a solution.

"low effort" is a completely different statement from supporting monopolies. If that's what you actually meant, sure I guess. But it's really hard for a normal person to do much about steering firefox other than helping raise a fuss. Sometimes there isn't "a solution".

There may not be "a solution", but recognizing FUD for what it is, is a part of the "whole" solution.

If you don't have something to contribute (like a direction, suggestion, correction), then as they used to say, you are "part of the problem".

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by jmiskovic » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 5:11 PM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #861

jmiskovic wrote: post #774

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I find it very hard to believe that either every site you interact with works exactly as you want it to work, or that you have the time/capacity to adjust them all with custom extensions. I get that there are downsides but you don't see any upsides?

No. No upsides. Again , what can an LLM possibly do to help? Summarize the page I'm already reading? I don't want a summary, that's dumb. People who think their time is so precious they have to optimize a five minute read into a ten cent API call and one minute read of possibly wrong output are just silly. You aren't "freeing up time", you are selling your reality. Buy stuff for me? Why? Buying shit online is so easy…

I also hate concept of summaries, as well as related concept of AI text inflation.

I'm also against any third party being involved here. I'm pointing out the potential of AI in the browser, but for me it has to be locally run or it is a no go.

My point is that browser plays a central role in our digital interactions. Extensions help with smoothing out the experience. LLMs could write those extensions, or serve as an agent to further make the online interactions more pleasant. I could see myself using it to either optimize my existing experience, or to vastly broaden the communication surface in directions that currently hold too much friction.

The rest was a joke, sorry if it made your day worse.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Dylan16807 » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 6:42 PM UTC

smaudet wrote: post #948

Dylan16807 wrote: post #850

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"low effort" is a completely different statement from supporting monopolies. If that's what you actually meant, sure I guess. But it's really hard for a normal person to do much about steering firefox other than helping raise a fuss. Sometimes there isn't "a solution".

There may not be "a solution", but recognizing FUD for what it is, is a part of the "whole" solution. If you don't have something to contribute (like a direction, suggestion, correction), then as they used to say, you are "part of the problem".

Shaming organizations into changing course sometimes works.

And even if it's useless that doesn't make it FUD.