Vista Fail. I've been using XP since Jan 2004 with no issues, no re-install, still works fine. Why the hell would I upgrade to downgrade my performance. Who needs a bloated candy-colored version of Windows? A new OS should be faster, not slower. Try again, Microsoft. Until then I'll stick with XP and OSX on my Mac.
Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Thats why you can't buy WindowsCurrent-1 Business would be perfectly happy sticking with W2k or NT4, there haven't been many breakthroughs in the technology needed to type a memo or update a sales spreadsheet. The only way the money keeps flowing to Redmond is that new machines only come with WindowsNew and eventually everything else has to update because it's a pain managing a mixed environment.
Indeed. Really all most companies want is continued support (patches). This model is crying for a subscription arrangement and MS was tripping over themselves trying to figure out how to make Windows a subscription business. It seems like it should be possible...
Microsoft tried the subscription model and it failed miserably.
They eventually gave up and switched all the subscription licenses to perpetual one... A savvy colleague of mine immediately went to the store and bought all the subscription licenses on the shelf (they were considerably cheaper than a full license).
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Thanks. I've switched plenty of distros (like most Linux users I guess). For now, I'm sticking with Debian. I find it quite fast and lean with xfce. One thing that's frustrated me in the past is that after having been a Windows users for years, I suddenly tried completely switching to Linux without knowing much about the commands and file structure. I still struggle with app updates and dependencies but I'm trying to…
I don't have any book recommendations, at least specifically with Debian. I've always been able to get an answer on the web. Now, I usually start with http://www.debian-administration.org to get some better ideas of how I can get some task done. I also find some good tips for Debian and Ubuntu at http://articles.slicehost.com
Thanks for the links.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Thanks. I've switched plenty of distros (like most Linux users I guess). For now, I'm sticking with Debian. I find it quite fast and lean with xfce. One thing that's frustrated me in the past is that after having been a Windows users for years, I suddenly tried completely switching to Linux without knowing much about the commands and file structure. I still struggle with app updates and dependencies but I'm trying to…
Yeah, I think every Linux user switches distros over the years to find one that suits them best. It's always interesting (to me) to hear what path others have trod along the way. I was lucky in that my girlfriend was much more deeply into Linux than I was when I decided to get rid of Windows altogether almost two years ago now. She was a big help. If I didn't know something, I'd just ask her. Unfortunately, I can't o…
Thanks, those links look great.
You're lucky with the gf mate. Mine just keeps asking me, "What are these secret clever things you keep doing with the computer?"
The reason I want to move away from Windows is to learn more about how Linux works and use it to do more fun things. I've used Ubuntu a few times and I liked it. But I find because it's deliberately aimed at non-geeks, it has too much fluff.
And that's why I like xfce. It's a really minimal, simple desktop - less distraction for me. You should try it.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
#25The lack of change does not have much to do with Vista. The main reason is that businesses are slow to make changes. Once they are comfortable they will not want to touch anything, specially if that means coming out of pocket. Now that being said, yes, Vista sucks.
I wish I could vote you down because this just isn't true, Vista does not suck. This statement is so very tired that I sometimes wonder why I still hear it. What is it that makes Vista suck to you? I've used Vista for 6+ months now for work and I can't name anything particularly sucky about it. Conversely, just the other day I discovered DEP which actually seems like a feature that they should have touted more in the marketing.
Why is there still mindless hatred of Vista? I'm actually kind of excited about Windows 7 which I can't say I've ever been able to claim about any release of Windows.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Yeah, I think every Linux user switches distros over the years to find one that suits them best. It's always interesting (to me) to hear what path others have trod along the way. I was lucky in that my girlfriend was much more deeply into Linux than I was when I decided to get rid of Windows altogether almost two years ago now. She was a big help. If I didn't know something, I'd just ask her. Unfortunately, I can't o…
Thanks, those links look great. You're lucky with the gf mate. Mine just keeps asking me, "What are these secret clever things you keep doing with the computer?" The reason I want to move away from Windows is to learn more about how Linux works and use it to do more fun things. I've used Ubuntu a few times and I liked it. But I find because it's deliberately aimed at non-geeks, it has too much fluff. And that's why I…
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Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
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Yeah, I think every Linux user switches distros over the years to find one that suits them best. It's always interesting (to me) to hear what path others have trod along the way. I was lucky in that my girlfriend was much more deeply into Linux than I was when I decided to get rid of Windows altogether almost two years ago now. She was a big help. If I didn't know something, I'd just ask her. Unfortunately, I can't o…
Thanks, those links look great. You're lucky with the gf mate. Mine just keeps asking me, "What are these secret clever things you keep doing with the computer?" The reason I want to move away from Windows is to learn more about how Linux works and use it to do more fun things. I've used Ubuntu a few times and I liked it. But I find because it's deliberately aimed at non-geeks, it has too much fluff. And that's why I…
And "minimal" here doesn't mean something necessarily aimed at power users like fluxbox, ratpoison or awesome.
I've always thought of xfce as a sort of gnome-lite-- it looks just as pretty and has all the gui toolbars and widgets that you would expect, but uses a tiny fraction of the resources. It's a great desktop environment for laptops and older computers.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
#282 years?! feels like just a few months ago.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
#29I believe this is a case of self-confirmation bias. Checking for similar articles from 2003, around 2 years after the launch of XP, I found this gem: "Windows XP, the most current version of Windows, was found on just 6.6 percent of the [business] machines" ( http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,39161686,0... ).
Exactly.
To be relevant, you'd need to consider this against XP's adoption taking into account rate of machine turnover.
Few people actually upgrade OS.
Yes, this means there hasn't been a compelling reason to upgrade OS. But that doesn't mean that much. There hasn't been a very compelling reason to upgrade machines in general.
It might signal that MS were solving problems with Vista (security mostly) that didn't really exist.
Re: Two years after Vista launch, 71% of business PCs still running XP
#30The lack of change does not have much to do with Vista. The main reason is that businesses are slow to make changes. Once they are comfortable they will not want to touch anything, specially if that means coming out of pocket. Now that being said, yes, Vista sucks.
I wish I could vote you down because this just isn't true, Vista does not suck. This statement is so very tired that I sometimes wonder why I still hear it. What is it that makes Vista suck to you? I've used Vista for 6+ months now for work and I can't name anything particularly sucky about it. Conversely, just the other day I discovered DEP which actually seems like a feature that they should have touted more in the…
Sorry if I offended you in any ways. I used Vista for one year before my laptop died. Although the graphics were nice, I found the entire experience less rewarding then using XP.