Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK. <-- HTTPS does this. What about secure sites like baking sites that encrypt end-to-end? Old farts making laws about things they know nothing about.
Independent review of UK national security law warns of overreach
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#12"Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK." <-- What about HTTPS, the thing that secures most websites especially banking sites. Old farts making laws about things they know nothing about! FFS
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#13Hah, I’m now a hostile actor!
Welcome on the world stage. There is not any actor here that can't be framed hostile, it's all about how the scene highlight into nice or ugly way.
Hope you'll enjoy the play.
Re: Independent review of UK national security law warns of overreach
#14Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK. <-- HTTPS does this. What about secure sites like baking sites that encrypt end-to-end? Old farts making laws about things they know nothing about.
> Old farts making laws about things they know nothing about.
Who's going to stop them?
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#15I wonder how the public in the UK feels about their country quickly devolving into an oversurveilled state.
> quickly devolving into an oversurveilled state
The UK has been heavily surveilled for several decades, if anything the pace has slowed especially in comparison to the modern US network of CCTV cameras on every doorstep available to the state and "private" survillence apparatus that has taken over.
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#16I wonder how the public in the UK feels about their country quickly devolving into an oversurveilled state.
Don't ask them on the internet because they'll be put in prison if they complain online!!!
Re: Independent review of UK national security law warns of overreach
#17> He warns that developers of apps like Signal and WhatsApp could technically fall within the legal definition of "hostile activity" simply because their technology "make[s] it more difficult for UK security and intelligence agencies to monitor communications.
Sounds like Let's Encrypt would also fall under that.
This has got to stop. If you want to stop criminals, then focus on their illegal activites, not the streets they walk on. I walk on them too. And don't use CP as a catch-all argument to insert backdoors.
Their big problem here is that previously, it was hard to find people with the same opinion as you. If you couldn't find someone in the same village who wanted to start a rebellion, it probably wouldn't happen. Today, someone can post a Telegram group message and make thousands of people rally to a town square. I see the dangers, and I see why governments think they are doing this to protect the people. No one wants civil war. That is still not a strong enough reason to call road construction a hostile activity.
I'm back in Sweden after 12 years abroad. Time to read up on which parties are sane and which aren't when it comes to technical infrastructure.
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#18Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK. <-- HTTPS does this. What about secure sites like baking sites that encrypt end-to-end? Old farts making laws about things they know nothing about.
baking sites, the most secure source of cookies
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#19UK has entirely gone off the deep end. The value they place on free speech is nearly zero. It may soon not be safe for authors of any privacy or encryption software to visit it or live in it. The way to fight this is to make and use so much encryption software that no private communications or storage stay unencrypted or non-private.
Westerners never had free speech in the first place. We are free to fight amongst one another, but if we ever act in a manner that endangers the Power that be, you don't live very long.
Re: Independent review of UK national security law warns of overreach
#20Meanwhile MI6 offers an onion service for secure communications: mi6govukbfxe5pzxqw3otzd2t4nhi7v6x4dljwba3jmsczozcolx2vqd.onion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYB129pGq0k
Yeah so that they can MITM it.