So the sanctions will eventually work and topple the regime?
Sanctions hurt ordinary people and always have.
After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
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Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#32Sounds like it would be cheaper to build desalination plants on the coast, and pipe the water in. Iran certainly has the technology and brainpower to do that.
I suggest you read the article it talks about the viability of that very point
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#33I grew up in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais, a region full of natural resources and, thankfully, aquifers and natural water reservoirs. However, centuries of extraction mismanagement and, more recently, over exploration of mineral resources puts these water resources into jeopardy. (Other problems include mining in open pits and with sludge dams that led to two of the worse environmental disasters in the world i…
this same problem is one of the side effects of mining for the metals used in things like solar panels it comes at the sacrifice of many non-western countries and this conversation is never on the table it's such a shame things that could otherwise last for thousands of years will get destroyed by a few decades of mismanagement
They have plenty of mines for iron amd otber metals in western countries as well. Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butte,_Montana
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#34So the sanctions will eventually work and topple the regime?
In 10 years there won’t be a regime in Iran because Iran won’t exist as it does today. With the collapsing water table people are going to be forced into either death or migration. I don’t want to be a doom and gloom guy, but the climate change collapse is starting to happen in front of our eyes—and not just in a far off ‘eventually this will be a problem’ way.
Here are some key sections from the article:
“The government blames the current crisis on changing climate [but] the dramatic water security issues of Iran are rooted in decades of disintegrated planning and managerial myopia,” says Keveh Madani, a former deputy head of the country’s environment department and now director of the United Nations University’s Institute of Water, Environment and Health.
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While failed rains may be the immediate cause of the crisis, they say, the root cause is more than half a century of often foolhardy modern water engineering — extending back to before the country’s Islamic revolution of 1979, but accelerated by the Ayatollahs’ policies since.
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#35Water is going to be needed to cool all these data centres going up around the world. They will gobble up electricity and water.
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#36Sounds like it would be cheaper to build desalination plants on the coast, and pipe the water in. Iran certainly has the technology and brainpower to do that.
No it has not and due to sanctions of USA, they struggle getting the equipement they need.
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#37Sounds like it would be cheaper to build desalination plants on the coast, and pipe the water in. Iran certainly has the technology and brainpower to do that.
They share the same gas field with Qatar, who does all their desalination with all the excess gas production they can’t sell.
Qatar has no surface freshwater or groundwater. So all of their water is desalinated. It’s often still quite salty to the taste though - the last few ppms would be an exorbitant cost to remove.
However, Qatar has 3 million people. Iran has 92 million people - 9 million in Tehran alone. So their half of that gas field in the Gulf contributes far less energy per capita.
And even if the energy is free (unlimited natural gas, fusion, magic, whatever) desalination is still fairly expensive. I think only about 50% of the cost is energy, the other half is CapEx, operations, and replacing the membranes as they get used up.
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#38The 2nd and 3rd order effects of any wars e.g with Afghanistan might be causing some late nights in Langley
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#39So the sanctions will eventually work and topple the regime?
From the article, Iran has depleted its aquifers in an attempt to maintain food self-sufficiency. While the sanctions did not restrict food imports, sanctions may have induced this policy by limiting exports to raise capital and more generally making a regime insular.
Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up
#40Water is going to be needed to cool all these data centres going up around the world. They will gobble up electricity and water.
Clean water use for data center use has literally zero impact on water situation in Iran.
Datacentres don't consume water.