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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

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When working on my projects and talking to investors, I often hear: “Just post it on Hacker News or Reddit and show that people love it.”

Unless you're building a start up where the potential customers are specifically HN and Reddit readers, get the hell away from those investors. They're idiots.

As lovely and wonderful as the readers of HN and Reddit are, being loved on HN or Reddit means essentially nothing. People here are the magpies of the internet - we love seeing the new shiny thing but that does not tell you it will be a success with the people who might want to buy it. For every Dropbox posted here there are hundreds of Show HN posts that didn't really go anywhere despite having tons of very positive commentary.

If you want to show investors that your start up's product has potential post about it where your customers go and get feedback from people who might give you their money. If you really want to prove your start up has potential, sell to those people and actually get their money. If you can get a sale based on your prototype/proof-of-concept/MVP product that is worth more than a million "Yeah, looks ace, I'd buy that if it was ." posts from us.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

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(I'm a mod here) It's true that this place can be cryptic, and that has downsides—specifically, it can be confusing to newcomers, even to some newcomers who would make ideal HN users. That sucks. But there's a key that unlocks most of the puzzles. That is to understand that we're optimizing for exactly one thing: curiosity. (Specifically, intellectual curiosity, since there are other kinds of curiosity too.) Here are…

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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

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post #51

When working on my projects and talking to investors, I often hear: “Just post it on Hacker News or Reddit and show that people love it.” Unless you're building a start up where the potential customers are specifically HN and Reddit readers, get the hell away from those investors. They're idiots. As lovely and wonderful as the readers of HN and Reddit are, being loved on HN or Reddit means essentially nothing . Peopl…

I love HN. And the Show HN graveyard is huge! Many a time I’ve searched, found a post I thought sounded cool, and it’s dead… sometimes in just a couple of months.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#54

It‘s clearly manipulated/curated, you can tell my some absolutely shitty content with zero comments and zero engagement ending up and staying on the frontpage for quite a while.

I've been here for a while and that's not a pattern that I recognize, could you point out a few examples? I am fairly sure the mods would love to hear about this as well.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#55
post #8

(I'm a mod here) It's true that this place can be cryptic, and that has downsides—specifically, it can be confusing to newcomers, even to some newcomers who would make ideal HN users. That sucks. But there's a key that unlocks most of the puzzles. That is to understand that we're optimizing for exactly one thing: curiosity. (Specifically, intellectual curiosity, since there are other kinds of curiosity too.) Here are…

A great take, and thanks for your all hard work dang. Yesterday the top comment on two stories I went to discuss had deep and meaningful content, before the last line which was a "and I talk about this stuff all the time on my newsletter [link]", and I was conflicted. Same poster each time. The poster had done the HN thing: responded with thoughtful examination of TFA, unique and interesting insight, and I don't feel…

Not a mod, but I do hope you flag comments like that. Dang is awesome, but it is user moderation that makes a giant difference.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#56
post #8

(I'm a mod here) It's true that this place can be cryptic, and that has downsides—specifically, it can be confusing to newcomers, even to some newcomers who would make ideal HN users. That sucks. But there's a key that unlocks most of the puzzles. That is to understand that we're optimizing for exactly one thing: curiosity. (Specifically, intellectual curiosity, since there are other kinds of curiosity too.) Here are…

Just by reading through all the comments and input under that post — “I know that I know nothing.” — Socrates

A lot of the comments and input here make sense. I’ll follow your advice and observe HN for a while, looking for interesting topics that suit me.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#57
post #8

(I'm a mod here) It's true that this place can be cryptic, and that has downsides—specifically, it can be confusing to newcomers, even to some newcomers who would make ideal HN users. That sucks. But there's a key that unlocks most of the puzzles. That is to understand that we're optimizing for exactly one thing: curiosity. (Specifically, intellectual curiosity, since there are other kinds of curiosity too.) Here are…

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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#58
post #51

When working on my projects and talking to investors, I often hear: “Just post it on Hacker News or Reddit and show that people love it.” Unless you're building a start up where the potential customers are specifically HN and Reddit readers, get the hell away from those investors. They're idiots. As lovely and wonderful as the readers of HN and Reddit are, being loved on HN or Reddit means essentially nothing . Peopl…

If I remember correctly, when Dropbox announced its launch most replies here were “but I can self host rsync!!” Well, turned out most people can’t.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone understand how Hacker News works?

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A great take, and thanks for your all hard work dang. Yesterday the top comment on two stories I went to discuss had deep and meaningful content, before the last line which was a "and I talk about this stuff all the time on my newsletter [link]", and I was conflicted. Same poster each time. The poster had done the HN thing: responded with thoughtful examination of TFA, unique and interesting insight, and I don't feel…

Not a mod, but I do hope you flag comments like that. Dang is awesome, but it is user moderation that makes a giant difference.

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