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Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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I was a Udemy instructor for ~10 years selling tech courses but focused more on delivering courses through my own site for the last ~5-6 years. Something never felt right with how Udemy promoted courses. I used to have a top selling course there, selling thousands of copies a month and now it gets basically no sales but it's still one of the highest rated courses in that niche on their platform. It's just no longer r…

Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. I used to notice it as a real lack of intergenerational knowledge transfer, but it's gotten so bad that it seems like more and more people react with "how do you know so much?" and "why would you do that?" over very basic knowledge that isn't even that old. For all the reading the average person claims to do, they sure don't seem to know very much…

On the other hand, old courses with outdated info are a major frustration on the platform and I can see why the Udemy might be downranking them.

The person at the root of this comment thread might not like it but they can’t just sit back and collect revenue forever without putting out updates.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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> Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. Mild counterpoint. Our professions(all things IT) moves bloody fast. If I were looking for info on cooking, baking, knitting sure... but IT stuff, I opine many of us seek the latest info because of the breakneck speeds this profession is known for.

Does it though? I mean I'm still teaching thread-safety and recursion to my interns... a solid foundation is a solid foundation.

For the fundamentals, sure, but many of the top sellers are going to be on things like React, Next, etc.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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12 years ago I certainly did not know why a servers IO would be slow, short of just the physical storage was slow. I think you might just be overestimating how much stuff people knew rather than the whole population forgetting how filesystem and IO internals work.

you hadn’t heard of RAID, readahead, write-back/write-through, stride or even just the concept of fragmentation? Even if you didn’t, I doubt you didn’t have someone on staff who did know about these things and would help out randomly with troubleshooting and avoiding footguns.

https://xkcd.com/2501/

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. Mild counterpoint. Our professions(all things IT) moves bloody fast. If I were looking for info on cooking, baking, knitting sure... but IT stuff, I opine many of us seek the latest info because of the breakneck speeds this profession is known for.

Does it though? I mean I'm still teaching thread-safety and recursion to my interns... a solid foundation is a solid foundation.

Yes. The autodesk fusion course that I learned 3D printing design off of on Udemy had a bunch of instructions for UI elements that had moved in the application.

It wasn’t a big deal but I would have still appreciated it if the author inserted some new recorded segments or re-recorded some content to make up for it.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Universities are not going anywhere MOOC are a dead end

Honestly years out of college, I really want to refresh my engineering education, and perhaps get academically rigorous education on topics I missed out on back then. While these Udemy is fine for building up CV bullet point skills, I have never felt that these tutorial based job training courses, designed to teach you framework N+1 were as useful as more fundamentaly and in depth courses that lead you to understand…

> While these Udemy is fine for building up CV bullet point skills, I have never felt that these tutorial based job training courses, designed to teach you framework N+1 were as useful as more fundamentaly and in depth courses that lead you to understand how things really work.

That's what Udemy was from the start. If you want depth, it was always Coursera.

https://www.coursera.org/browse/physical-science-and-enginee...

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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> Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Does anyone remember what happened to UC Berkeley? They had a lot of their courses recorded and uploaded to youtube; an absolute joy. Then, some [beep] sued them for not making the recording accessible enough, i.e. not providing captions alongside…

You're missing important context, which is that they were required by (federal) law to provide said accommodation, and they failed to do it (some would say they chose not to do it). It was easier (cheaper) to pull the plug. Don't blame the litigant. If you don't like it, change federal law.

They got sued for not having subtitles… no thanks. I think I’ll blame the chucklefucks that thought, “Oh an opportunity for a quick buck” and resulted in everyone losing a valuable resource.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Does anyone remember what happened to UC Berkeley? They had a lot of their courses recorded and uploaded to youtube; an absolute joy. Then, some [beep] sued them for not making the recording accessible enough, i.e. not providing captions alongside…

You're missing important context, which is that they were required by (federal) law to provide said accommodation, and they failed to do it (some would say they chose not to do it). It was easier (cheaper) to pull the plug. Don't blame the litigant. If you don't like it, change federal law.

"No plaintiff, no judge."

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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What are the best online courses you’ve taken? On Coursera, I did Andrew Ng’s machine learning course and Dan Boneh’s cryptography course and both were excellent. Time well spent IMHO. The next thing I want to take is a WinDbg course. Udemy has one that looks pretty good. I should probably also find a modern assembly language course…

edx's monozukuri and Harvard cs50x were both incredibly good courses.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing important context, which is that they were required by (federal) law to provide said accommodation, and they failed to do it (some would say they chose not to do it). It was easier (cheaper) to pull the plug. Don't blame the litigant. If you don't like it, change federal law.

They got sued for not having subtitles… no thanks. I think I’ll blame the chucklefucks that thought, “Oh an opportunity for a quick buck” and resulted in everyone losing a valuable resource.

It's not about money it's about making sure things are accessible. The ADA is one of the reasons America is more accessible then Europe. Lawsuits are the enforcement mechanism

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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I've realized over time that I personally cannot learn from video at all. Even "great" lectures don't stick. Text does! Being able to skim, jump around, re-read a paragraph or pause on a single sentence is how understanding actually forms for me. What’s interesting is that LLMs lean hard into this strength of text, they make it interactive, searchable, and contextual. To me, most of these platforms have optimized vid…

The dream never dies, possibly because people remember when class time was supplanted by a movie. Anyone remember "I Am Joe's Heart"? Those movies showed that you could just sit and watch passively like TV, and you'd learn quite a bit, with professional diagrams and animations to help.

Yet your comment is true. Perhaps the difference is that science is inherently interesting because nature is confined to things that are consistent and make sense, while the latest security model for version 3.0 of this-or-that web service protocol, vs. version 2.0, is basically arbitrary and resists effective visual diagramming. Learning software (not computer science) is an exercise in memorizing things that aren't inherently interesting.

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