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A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by stuaxo »

themafia wrote: post #44
boh wrote: post #33

AI is pretty much killing social media in the long term. Even pre-AI, a good chunk of posts/comment sections on sites were bots/paid. Reddit is becoming less believable than ChatGPT. I guess there's still the Onion-verse.

I'm not convinced you can have an impromptu global conversation to any positive end. Humans are not well suited to this task and an unsupervised mostly anonymous forum plays to those weaknesses and provides no support to generate positive outcomes. It was never a particularly good idea at the scale it's currently deployed at.

Adding recommendation engines that optimise for anger makes it even worse.

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by throwaway81523 »

themafia wrote: post #68
estimator7292 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBSes and forums have existed for literally longer than the internet

Were they global or local? I made that distinction intentionally.

Usenet was US-centric but somewhat global and certainly not local. Even dialup BBS's were sometimes nationwide despite long distance phone charges. I wasn't into the BBS thing though.

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by songodongo »

SilverElfin wrote: post #9

This feels not very different from the recent report revealing how Nick Fuentes has a lot of artificial likes and comments on videos that push his content, due to a large following that responds to commands delivered via Telegram etc. A VC backed corporation using a large phone farm to manipulate the public is no better than Nick Fuentes.

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Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by reaperducer »

themafia wrote: post #68
estimator7292 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBSes and forums have existed for literally longer than the internet

Were they global or local? I made that distinction intentionally.

Were they global or local? I made that distinction intentionally.

Either or both, depending on the SYSOP's resources. I ran a BBS that did store-and-forward between the U.S. and Europe.

The ones with global connections could take a day to a week to forward messages, but that turned out to be a feature. We went outside in the real world instead of staying online arguing with strangers.

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by ackfoobar »

I checked out one of the accounts mentioned, mostly to check if I can discern fake accounts. The content is just still pictures. I'd dismiss those whether or not they're AI. Well, I'm not on TikTok anyway.

This reminds me of some youtube videos when I was researching some stuff to buy. Those videos are just still images plus text-to-speech narration, usually with an annoying background music.

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

qingcharles wrote: post #29
Hizonner wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about a few prison terms for conspiracy to defraud? And not for small fry like the "CEO" of this company either. Why not, say, 10 years for Marc Andreesen, personally? And, no, no "disrupting" it with serve-your-time-as-a-service, either.

I hate that Marc Andreesen' arc went from Mosaic to supervillain. It's easier to count billionaires who aren't supervillains. p.s. this is not a great photo of Marc on his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marc_Andreessen-9_(croppe...

He's eggmaxxing.

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by edm0nd »

shagmin wrote: post #74
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #57

Actual title: "Hack Reveals the a16z-Backed Phone Farm Flooding TikTok With AI Influencers"

Original title was better in multiple ways. Mods did a disservice here.

wait is there more than one mod on HN? I for some reason have always thought it was just that @dang guy as the only one. Is he just the top mod and there are others underneath him?

Re: A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote

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Post by pinnochio »

estimator7292 wrote: post #59
themafia wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not convinced you can have an impromptu global conversation to any positive end. Humans are not well suited to this task and an unsupervised mostly anonymous forum plays to those weaknesses and provides no support to generate positive outcomes. It was never a particularly good idea at the scale it's currently deployed at.

BBSes and forums have existed for literally longer than the internet

The demographics of who was online before the internet went mainstream matter a lot, here. It wasn't exactly a representative slice of the general population.
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