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Post by ryoshu » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:12 PM UTC

dieortin wrote: post #133

Obertr wrote: post #125

At this point in time I start to believe OAI is very much behind on the models race and it can't be reversed Image model they have released is much worse than nano banana pro, ghibli moment did not happen Their GPT 5.2 is obviously overfit on benchmarks as a consensus of many developers and friends I know. So Opus 4.5 is staying on top when it comes to coding The weight of the ads money from google and general direct…

Is there anything pointing to Brin having anything to do with Google’s turnaround in AI? I hear a lot of people saying this, but no one explaining why they do

Post by mmaunder » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

avazhi wrote: post #171

iwontberude wrote: post #166

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“And then imagine Google designing silicon that doesn’t trail the industry. While you are there we may as well start to imagine Google figures out how to support a product lifecycle that isn’t AdSense” Google is great on the data science alone, every thing else is an after thought

https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-google-tp... "And then imagine Google designing silicon that doesn’t trail the industry." I'm def not a Google stan generally, but uh, have you even been paying attention? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_Processing_Unit

Post by gdhkgdhkvff » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:20 PM UTC

Obertr wrote: post #169

encroach wrote: post #150

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OAI's latest image model outperforms Google's in LMArena in both image generation and image editing. So even though some people may prefer nano banana pro in their own anecdotal tests, the average person prefers GPT image 1.5 in blind evaluations. https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/image-edit

Add This to Gemini distribution which is being adcertised by Google in all of their products, and average Joe will pick the sneakers at the shelf near the checkout rather than healthier option in the back

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:20 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #188

int32_64 wrote: post #162

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Is there a "good enough" endgame for LLMs and AI where benchmarks stop mattering because end users don't notice or care? In such a scenario brand would matter more than the best tech, and OpenAI is way out in front in brand recognition.

For average consumers, I think very much yes, and this is where OpenAI's brand recognition shines. But for anyone using LLM's to help speed up academic literature reviews where every detail matters, or coding where every detail matters, or anything technical where every detail matters -- the differences very much matter. And benchmarks serve just to confirm your personal experience anyways, as the differences between…

Post by BoredPositron » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:24 PM UTC

raincole wrote: post #149

Obertr wrote: post #125

At this point in time I start to believe OAI is very much behind on the models race and it can't be reversed Image model they have released is much worse than nano banana pro, ghibli moment did not happen Their GPT 5.2 is obviously overfit on benchmarks as a consensus of many developers and friends I know. So Opus 4.5 is staying on top when it comes to coding The weight of the ads money from google and general direct…

That's a quite sensationalized view. Ghibli moment was only about half a year ago. At that moment, OpenAI was so far ahead in terms of image editing. Now it's behind for a few months and "it can't be reversed"?