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Post by matwood »

safety1st wrote: post #750
wtallis wrote: post #674

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Price is irrelevant. Mozilla's behavior with Pocket was at odds with Mozilla's stated goals and values.

The broader discussion but especially this little exchange reminds me of a similar situation with Ubuntu. At one point they were the darling of the desktop Linux space and much beloved by an online community of highly principled people who didn't pay them anything. Those same people then utterly blasted them when they tried a few monetization/promotion features that fell flat, like the Amazon lens in Unity. I had no…

> There is also a whole strain of thought in SaaS which says don't ever have a free version because those guys always end up being the biggest complainers.

Not just free, but also cheap. I have found the less someone pays the higher the likelihood they are a problem customer.

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Post by gizzlon »

g947o wrote: post #363
lelanthran wrote: post #286

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> Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. I'm not browsing benchmarks :-/ When I do then chrome will have an advantage. Meanwhile, in the real world, a JS engine can be half the speed of the Chrome one and the browser can still be faster, because blocking ads is what gives you the biggest speed up. All the performance advantages in the world fail to matter if you're still loading ads.

On my Android phone, Chrome opens web pages noticeably (and consistently) faster than Firefox. And I wasn't using a stopwatch. I am literally making a sacrifice to use Firefox.

Not my experience. They feel similar, even with 16 tabs in Firefox and 1 in Chrome

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Post by matwood »

komali2 wrote: post #702
array_key_first wrote: post #539

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> Basically every product Mozilla releases is immediately met with extreme scourn and scepticism. While everyone else seems to get the benefit of the doubt, including the likes of Google, Mozilla seems to get the exact opposite of that. I've been thinking about this for a while, ever since The Framework DHH incident. Basically, framework sent DHH a free laptop and funded his ruby conference and "arch distro." DHH mea…

I think it’s also related to bike shedding. No one wants to do the hard work of understanding the nuance of ethics and timing, and it’s easier to argue about this single event must equal evil.

See also how the left in American politics is known to eat its own. IMO, this led to the rise of MAGA and Trump.

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Post by jmiskovic »

NothingAboutAny wrote: post #649
jmiskovic wrote: post #330

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A browser with current definition obviously doesn't "need" AI. And we also know all too well how it's going to turn out - they will both use the AI to push ads onto us and also collect and sell our personal data. However, a strong locally-executed AI would have potential to vastly improve our experience of web! So much work is done in browsers could be enhanced or automated with custom agents. You'd no longer need an…

man not a single one of those examples sounds like something I'd need, or even need an AI agent to do. I keep seeing the ads for AI browsers and the only thing I can think about is the complete and utter lack of a use case, and your post only solidifies that further. not that I'm disagreeing with you per se, I'm sure some people have a workflow they can't automate easily and they need a more complicated and expensive…

I find it very hard to believe that either every site you interact with works exactly as you want it to work, or that you have the time/capacity to adjust them all with custom extensions. I get that there are downsides but you don't see any upsides?

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Post by smaudet »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #712
smaudet wrote: post #610

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Personally not support monopolies? If firefox is not working, do you have a solution/alternative?

Are you trying to say that complaining about Mozilla's mistakes supports monopolies? If yes then that's an unreasonable standard to hold people to. If no then I can't figure out what your comment means.

Not at all. To clarify, saying something is "over", without really saying what your plan is, is low effort.

"This is a problem, and here is what I/we should do", takes a bit more effort.

Firefox is still open source last I checked. You can still contribute, write bugs, write letters to the CEO, etc...

I'm only taking issue with tendency people have to throw shade without offering a solution.

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Post by fsflover »

nicoburns wrote: post #599
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> instant messaging Doesn't Mozilla have their own Matrix server?

It does, but it's mostly for coordinating development rather than a consumer facing product. Personally I'm not convinced Mozilla IM would make sense though. It's a crowded msrket with lots of other options.

There are not many options for a secure, e2e messaging not relying on a single point of failure (including Signal), with a good UX and a possibility of video calls. I only know of Matrix. A AFAIK there are not so many trusted servers.

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Post by Tepix »

CuriousRose wrote: post #658
gkoberger wrote: post #275

Having worked at Mozilla a while ago, the CEO role is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Success is oddly defined: it's a non-profit (well, a for-profit owned by a non-profit) that needs to make a big profit in a short amount of time. And anything done to make that profit will annoy the community. I hope Anthony leans into what makes Mozilla special. The past few years, Mozilla's business model has been to just m…

Fully agree with this. - Mozilla SSL Certs - for corporations that don't want Let's Encrypt - Mozilla Mail - a reliable Exchange/Google Mail alternative (desperately needed imo) - Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet? - Mozilla Search - metasearch that isn't based on Bing/DDG/Google - Mozilla HTTPS DNS - although Cloudflare will probably always do this better All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand al…

As a US corporation, Mozilla cannot compete on privacy focused services. If they want to focus on privacy (which I think is great), they should ship software that improves privacy, not offer services.

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Post by fsflover »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #483
fsflover wrote: post #472

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> And just to add, I kind of mourn FirefoxOS. Today, we have Mobian, postmarketOS, PureOS and many more GNU/Linux OSes for smartphones.

It's too late. If I want to interact with modern society, I have to use banking apps, the NHS app, WhatsApp, numerous IoT apps... The list is endless. Many of these will refuse to run on rooted phones. Google and Apple won. We can learn from this and hope the next big thing to come along has some competition from the truly open source side of computing.

> It's too late.

Too late for what? Librem 5 is my daily driver. Would you also say that in the 90s Windows "won" and "it was too late"? Please stop with the security/privacy nihilism, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27897975

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Post by fsflover »

Tepix wrote: post #777
CuriousRose wrote: post #658

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Fully agree with this. - Mozilla SSL Certs - for corporations that don't want Let's Encrypt - Mozilla Mail - a reliable Exchange/Google Mail alternative (desperately needed imo) - Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet? - Mozilla Search - metasearch that isn't based on Bing/DDG/Google - Mozilla HTTPS DNS - although Cloudflare will probably always do this better All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand al…

As a US corporation, Mozilla cannot compete on privacy focused services. If they want to focus on privacy (which I think is great), they should ship software that improves privacy, not offer services.

Are you saying that a warrant canary isn't useful?

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Post by MYEUHD »

CuriousRose wrote: post #658
gkoberger wrote: post #275

Having worked at Mozilla a while ago, the CEO role is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Success is oddly defined: it's a non-profit (well, a for-profit owned by a non-profit) that needs to make a big profit in a short amount of time. And anything done to make that profit will annoy the community. I hope Anthony leans into what makes Mozilla special. The past few years, Mozilla's business model has been to just m…

Fully agree with this. - Mozilla SSL Certs - for corporations that don't want Let's Encrypt - Mozilla Mail - a reliable Exchange/Google Mail alternative (desperately needed imo) - Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet? - Mozilla Search - metasearch that isn't based on Bing/DDG/Google - Mozilla HTTPS DNS - although Cloudflare will probably always do this better All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand al…

> Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet?

There's no release yet, but it's being worked on. https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-ios

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