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No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by almosthere »

I do think dipping your toes into the future is worth it. If it turns out the LLM is trying to kill us by cancelling our meetings and emailing people that we're crazy that would suck. But I don't think this is any more dangerous than giving people a browser in the first place. They have already done enough to shoot themselves in the foot enough.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by MrAlex94 »

almosthere wrote: post #2

I do think dipping your toes into the future is worth it. If it turns out the LLM is trying to kill us by cancelling our meetings and emailing people that we're crazy that would suck. But I don't think this is any more dangerous than giving people a browser in the first place. They have already done enough to shoot themselves in the foot enough.

I am more of a sceptic of AI in the context of a browser, than its general use. I think LLMs have great utility and have really helped push things along - but it’s not as if they’re completely risk free.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by clueless »

This whole backlash to firefox wanting to introduce AI feels a little knee-jerky. We don't know if firefox might want to roll out their own locally hosted LLM model that then they plug into.. and if so, if would cut down on the majority of the knee jerk complaints. I think people want AI in the browser, they just don't want it to be the big-corp hosted AI...

[Update]: as I posted below, sample use cases would include translation, article summarization, asking questions from a long wiki page... and maybe with some agents built-in as well: parallelizing a form filling/ecom task, having the agent transcribe/translate an audio/video in real time, etc

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by 1shooner »

clueless wrote: post #5

This whole backlash to firefox wanting to introduce AI feels a little knee-jerky. We don't know if firefox might want to roll out their own locally hosted LLM model that then they plug into.. and if so, if would cut down on the majority of the knee jerk complaints. I think people want AI in the browser, they just don't want it to be the big-corp hosted AI... [Update]: as I posted below, sample use cases would include…

I just know I've already had to chase down AI in Firefox I definitely did not ask for or activate, and I don't recall consenting to.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by smt88 »

almosthere wrote: post #2

I do think dipping your toes into the future is worth it. If it turns out the LLM is trying to kill us by cancelling our meetings and emailing people that we're crazy that would suck. But I don't think this is any more dangerous than giving people a browser in the first place. They have already done enough to shoot themselves in the foot enough.

I don't mind Mozilla trying to make use of AI, but I'm also glad we have actual competition still.

In many other areas, there are zero "no AI" options at all.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by recursive »

clueless wrote: post #5

This whole backlash to firefox wanting to introduce AI feels a little knee-jerky. We don't know if firefox might want to roll out their own locally hosted LLM model that then they plug into.. and if so, if would cut down on the majority of the knee jerk complaints. I think people want AI in the browser, they just don't want it to be the big-corp hosted AI... [Update]: as I posted below, sample use cases would include…

I don't feel like I want AI in my browser. I'm not sure what I'd do with it. Maybe translation?

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by ekr____ »

recursive wrote: post #8
clueless wrote: post #5

This whole backlash to firefox wanting to introduce AI feels a little knee-jerky. We don't know if firefox might want to roll out their own locally hosted LLM model that then they plug into.. and if so, if would cut down on the majority of the knee jerk complaints. I think people want AI in the browser, they just don't want it to be the big-corp hosted AI... [Update]: as I posted below, sample use cases would include…

I don't feel like I want AI in my browser. I'm not sure what I'd do with it. Maybe translation?

FWIW, Firefox already has AI-based translation using local models.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by actionfromafar »

recursive wrote: post #8
clueless wrote: post #5

This whole backlash to firefox wanting to introduce AI feels a little knee-jerky. We don't know if firefox might want to roll out their own locally hosted LLM model that then they plug into.. and if so, if would cut down on the majority of the knee jerk complaints. I think people want AI in the browser, they just don't want it to be the big-corp hosted AI... [Update]: as I posted below, sample use cases would include…

I don't feel like I want AI in my browser. I'm not sure what I'd do with it. Maybe translation?

I like translation, it's come in handy a few times, and it's neat to know it's done locally.
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