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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by someNameIG »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #91
alberth wrote: post #25

Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

> Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? These days, it seems to be people who: * Don't want to be using a browser owned by an ethically dubious corporation * Want a fully functional ad blocker * Prefer vertical tabs

> Want a fully functional ad blocker

Is this even the case? UBO has ~10 million users going by the extension store, Firefox has over 150 million users.

So less than 10% of Firefox installs also have UBO.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by ggm »

I know quite a few non-tech firefox users. None of them want the AI integration. I am wary of confirmation bias, but I feel this is one of those simpsons headmaster meme moments: Am I wrong? No, I am right! the users are wrong! the users want me to spend millions developing AI for firefox instead of all the other things.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by smt88 »

sfink wrote: post #581
smt88 wrote: post #491

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Everything I can find online says that there are contributors working for both Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation

Contributors are people. Donations are dollars. People ≠ dollars. Unless you grind them up and eat them as sausages, but don't do that. The anti-theft threads will get stuck in your teeth.

The contributors are paid by Mozilla Foundation. This is not complicated.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by concinds »

ksec wrote: post #378
aucisson_masque wrote: post #257

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Safari use less CPU power than Firefox, chrome being the worst of them all. It's even more obvious when watching video where safari will be 5 to 10 points lower than Firefox. Harder to say when it's rendering page but the fact of the matter is that I tried both for years, Firefox always drain the battery faster.

>It's even more obvious when watching video where safari will be 5 to 10 points lower than Firefox. Safari uses macOS for video so the points will be on macOS. Firefox uses it own internal video decoder. That is why image and video codec support on Safari is dependent on macOS upgrade not Safari.

Safari uses OS frameworks but they're called from Safari subprocesses and counted as part of Safari.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by __loam »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #118

I love Mozilla but this feels like marketing imo. From the article: "AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off" and "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser". I highly doubt you will be able to turn of the transformer tech features in an AI browser imo. And they won't make a separate browser for this. This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla…

Safari lol

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by pseudalopex »

stock_toaster wrote: post #594
pseudalopex wrote: post #443

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> Mozilla burns a batshit amount of money on feel good fancies. How much?

> In 2018, Baker received $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla. > In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, Baker's salary was more than $3 million. > In 2021, her salary rose again to more than $5.5 million, > and again to over $6.9 million in 2022. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Mozilla_Foundation_and_Mozilla_Corporation

And what percent of revenue was this?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by smaudet »

stephen_g wrote: post #583
smaudet wrote: post #295

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> This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla, sadly. I really feel like every time Mozilla announces something, someone gets paid to leave comments like this around. I've seen many "beginning of the end" comments like this, and so far, it hasn't happened. What I do see is a lot of bashing, and hypocrisy, and excuses for why its OK that you don't personally try to do better...

Even as someone who is still a Firefox user - the browser now has about half the browser market share as Edge... Absolutely nobody needs to be paid to write these kind of comments! Honestly the last 5-10 years has been a disaster for Firefox...

Perhaps not paid, but. I think even if it's natural (I myself have been known to make a disparaging remark in their direction), I still suspect some level of manipulation (why was I saying these things? Out of frustration or because I'd heard something worrying and negative news sticks better than positive?).

Sure, firefox has had some issues, and nobody is denying the market share is an issue but:

1) It has worked reliably for the past 10 years 2) Mozilla and firefox have not disappeared, in fact it has created a number of useful services worth paying for.

Meanwhile, I keep hearing these negative "the world is ending" comments regarding what amounts to a "force for good" in this world, and I have to wonder.

How many of these people making these comments recently switched to chrome, and are saying this as an excuse?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by kbelder »

marky1991 wrote: post #350
lalaland1125 wrote: post #67

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It's not really possible to do that when the opposing beliefs are so fundamental. Mozilla had, and has, a lot of LGBT staff. How could you expect those staff to work under and trust a CEO opposed to their very existence as equal members of society?

It's basic tolerance, it's not that hard. You do your job and collect your paycheck at the end of the week, same as everyone else.

>It's basic tolerance, it's not that hard.

That's right. To get a bit philosophical, it's interesting to see some people's justifications about how they are right to be intolerant in the ways they want to be, while still believing that they are free-thinking and tolerant. A lot of convoluted arguments are really about keeping one's self-image intact, justifying beliefs that are contradictory but which the person really wants to believe. I think that is a trap that is more dangerous for intelligent people.

For what it's worth, I support and supported gay marriage at the time, but don't think people should be forced out of their job for believing otherwise. Thoughts and words you disagree with should be met with alternative thoughts and words.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by someNameIG »

cpburns2009 wrote: post #514
sfink wrote: post #471

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Are you implying that the direct competitor, Chrome, is taking in the same or less? Chrome has a much larger staff (excluding the rest of Google), so I guess they must all be earning a small fraction of Mozilla staff salaries. Such dedicated people!

My point is Mozilla achieves practically nothing despite making half a billion ad dollars for free from Google. If Wikipedia's numbers are right, that's $730,000 per employee.

They're the only modern usable browser engine not developed by a multi-trillion dollar corp. I'd say that's a pretty big achievement.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by smaudet »

mcpar-land wrote: post #305
smaudet wrote: post #295

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> This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla, sadly. I really feel like every time Mozilla announces something, someone gets paid to leave comments like this around. I've seen many "beginning of the end" comments like this, and so far, it hasn't happened. What I do see is a lot of bashing, and hypocrisy, and excuses for why its OK that you don't personally try to do better...

Personally try to do what better? Run Mozilla? Make a browser?

Personally not support monopolies? If firefox is not working, do you have a solution/alternative?
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