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Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by lelanthran »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #127
freedomben wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, manifest v2 support alone is a killer feature that will keep me on FF as long as they support it. It definitely helps that it's also a great (though imperfect) browser.

The wider point here is that you can only use FF as long as Mozilla can fund it and Mozilla can only fund it as long as Google funds them. At some point, it will be cheaper for Google to pay monopoly fines than funding Mozilla.

There's penalties other than fines for abusive monopolies.

Fines are only the slightest punishment.

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Post by pjmlp »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #118

I love Mozilla but this feels like marketing imo. From the article: "AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off" and "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser". I highly doubt you will be able to turn of the transformer tech features in an AI browser imo. And they won't make a separate browser for this. This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla…

I still use Firefox, however it has been away from our browser matrix since 2019, very few customers worry with browsers under 5% market share.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by pndy »

ecshafer wrote: post #4

It looks like they chose a Product Manager and MBA. Why can't we get a software engineer or computer scientist?

I'm afraid they're delegated to coding nowadays and even open source projects are run like corporations with attached "foundations" parasites where funneling out money on unrelated stuff occurs.

This piece linked is a dry marketing and nothing else, and I don't believe in a single bit this guy is saying or will ever say.

The line about AI being always a choice that user can simply turn it off: I need to go to about:config registry to turn every occurrence of it in Firefox. So there's that.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by marcosdumay »

dotancohen wrote: post #245
high_na_euv wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation? Image search? Live captions? Dubbing? Summary? Rewrite text better?

> Translation? Sounds like a great OS feature. I might want to use this in my PDF viewer and Office viewer as well. > Image search? Sounds like a web site, not a browser feature. > Live captions? Sounds like a great OS feature. I might want to use this in VLC as well. > Dubbing? Sounds like a great OS feature. I might want to use this in VLC as well. > Summary? Sounds like a great OS feature. I might want to use this…

> Sounds like a great OS feature.

Cool, and some DEs make it possible to start implementing this for most applications today. But Mozilla is not KDE or Gnome, so the most they can do is to make this on their software, and make it easy to copy for the entire system.

> Sounds like a web site, not a browser feature.

Sounds like a bit of lack of imagination on your part. Do you think the same for text search?

>

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Post by smaudet »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #118

I love Mozilla but this feels like marketing imo. From the article: "AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off" and "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser". I highly doubt you will be able to turn of the transformer tech features in an AI browser imo. And they won't make a separate browser for this. This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla…

> This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla, sadly.

I really feel like every time Mozilla announces something, someone gets paid to leave comments like this around. I've seen many "beginning of the end" comments like this, and so far, it hasn't happened.

What I do see is a lot of bashing, and hypocrisy, and excuses for why its OK that you don't personally try to do better...

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Post by LexiMax »

bigyabai wrote: post #238
trentnix wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The beginning of the end was getting rid Brendan Eich for wrongthink. This is the middle of the end.

Having seen what Brave became, I'm extremely happy that Eich wasn't allowed to bring his "vision" to my favorite browser.

Even in a compromised state, if given the choice between Firefox and Brave, I would choose Firefox 10 out of 10 times. A closed source chromium fork put out by a business that still isn't sure what its business model is and already has a fair number of "whoopsies" under its belt is a complete non-starter for me.

That is, given the choice between Firefox and Brave. For what it's worth, my current browser is Zen, and I'm quite happy with it.

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Post by mohamedattahri »

tristor wrote: post #230
mohamedattahri wrote: post #221

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I can question the qualifications of a person as it relates to a specific position (e.g. CEO), but that doesn't mean I don't respect their past contributions. I find the accusations of sexism towards anyone who dares question her as excessive as some of the comments that were made towards her.

> I can question the qualifications of a person as it relates to a specific position Sure, but do people generally question the qualifications of founders that successfully grew something from inception? Or is it only for people who are women? Because I definitely see a trend in the comment threads in HN over the last many years.

This has nothing to do with the founder status.

Founders don’t face any competition when they get the job at their own companies, and they often have ownership to force it as an outcome if there’s ever a debate.

Baker, to her credit, probably faced brutal competition to get to the top job. It’s not out there to wonder why she was picked, and the answer cannot be because « she was there from the beginning ».

HN tends to like people who have a certain understanding of product and technology. Baker’s legal background probably didn’t help put forward her other skills, hence the questions.

If the argument is based on trends your personally noticed on HN, then I’m afraid there’s not much to discuss.

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Post by mort96 »

criddell wrote: post #212
bastardoperator wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All those things we had before AI?

Most of those things weren't very good before AI was applied. Translation specifically was pretty bad before Google applied machine learning methods to it around 2007 when it became very good almost overnight.

Google Translate isn't what's meant when tech CEOs say "AI" in 2025.

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Post by homarp »

avazhi wrote: post #270
high_na_euv wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation? Image search? Live captions? Dubbing? Summary? Rewrite text better?

Translate sure. Image search? I have a search engine for that. Live captions? Didn’t ask for that, wouldn’t use it. Dubbing? Ditto. Summary? Wouldn’t trust an AI for that, plus it’s just more tik-tokification. No fucking thanks. I don’t need to experience life as short blips of everything. Rewrite text better? Might as well kill myself once I’m ready to let a predictive text bot write shit in my place. So… no thanks.

Local RAG on your browsed pages (either automatically, manually or a mix (allow/disallow domains/url) ?

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Post by glenstein »

blm126 wrote: post #247
rdm_blackhole wrote: post #210

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> The moment Mozilla failed to stop being dependent on Google's money whilst being true to their own mission in being a 'privacy first browser' it already was the end and the damage in trust was done. I understand your position but what is the alternative funding source that could keep a company making a free browser running? Apple funds Safari's development but it's basically a side project for them, Google funds Ch…

I believe you stated the problem in a way that its unsolvable. Charge your customers money, so you can work for them. I'm not nearly as certain as you are that Netscape failed because it was charging money. Netscape just stopped updating for multiple years at the height of the browser wars. For Firefox in particular, I would 100% be willing to pay for it. Individuals like me who will pay are rare, but companies that…

Firefox is reportedly rolling out an enterprise option in 2026 so we'll see how that goes.
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