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Post by mohamedattahri »

tristor wrote: post #81
cies wrote: post #45

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I can only assume you're referring to Mitchell Baker? Mitchell Baker has gotten a /lot/ of negative comments on HN, and some for good reason, but the constant ask of "how she won the position" and the like just shows the ignorance of the commenters... Mitchell Baker co-founded Mozilla, and was the legal mind that structured both the split from Netscape that salvaged the code and wrote the majority of the Mozilla Publ…

I can question the qualifications of a person as it relates to a specific position (e.g. CEO), but that doesn't mean I don't respect their past contributions.

I find the accusations of sexism towards anyone who dares question her as excessive as some of the comments that were made towards her.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

lovelearning wrote: post #115
0x000xca0xfe wrote: post #92

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What's so fundamental about marriage? I don't think childless couples (of any gender) should get any societal advantages yet I have no problem working with people that disagree. Why has everything to be black-or-white, left-or-right, with us or against us? That's not a productive way to think about others.

If there's nothing fundamental about marriage and it's just some weird coliving arrangement, then why ban it for only some groups in the first place? Nothing productive or even rational about it. Why is the reaction seen as irrational or immature but not the action that triggered it?

> Why is the reaction seen as irrational or immature but not the action that triggered it?

The analogous (but with an opposite direction) action would be campaigning to make gay marriage legal. Nobody has a problem with people doing that. The reason people object to Eich's firing is because it is a very clear escalation in the culture war, not because they have strong opinions about gay marriage.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by cpburns2009 »

It continues to amaze me how a company racking in over 500 million a year in revenue can continue to fail so spectacularly. With that income there's no reason they shouldn't be the leading browser. Doubling down on AI is only going to burn more money while they continue to lose market share.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by mschuster91 »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #210
rvz wrote: post #154

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> This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla, sadly. The moment Mozilla failed to stop being dependent on Google's money whilst being true to their own mission in being a 'privacy first browser' it already was the end and the damage in trust was done. In 2007, the CEO at the time said they could live without Google's money - Now, their entire survival was tied to Google funding them [0] and got rewar…

> The moment Mozilla failed to stop being dependent on Google's money whilst being true to their own mission in being a 'privacy first browser' it already was the end and the damage in trust was done. I understand your position but what is the alternative funding source that could keep a company making a free browser running? Apple funds Safari's development but it's basically a side project for them, Google funds Ch…

> Apple funds Safari's development but it's basically a side project for them, Google funds Chrome's development as side project to their ad business, Edge is the same for Microsoft.

Edge is a Chromium fork so essentially they don't have that much work in keeping up.

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Post by rpdillon »

WawaFin wrote: post #89
perlgeek wrote: post #18

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They also have the "extensions that can do real ad blocking" angle.

I've been using Chrome with uBlock Origin Lite and not even once I found a case when this version of uBlock was behaving differently (as less efficient) than the "full" uBlock Origin Maybe I'm just lucky, but even this argument is quite ... meh

I commented about this a few weeks ago here about this, but essentially: v2 allows you to block things you can't see, but you still probably don't want, like folks hiding cloud analytics behind CNAME cloaking to allow it to appear as a first-party site rather than Google Analytics, for example.

You won't "feel" this in your day-to-day browsing, but if you're concerned about your data being collected, v2 matters.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by josefresco »

quchen wrote: post #46
miki_oomiri wrote: post #39

If I were the CEO, I would: - focus 100% on Firefox Desktop & Mobile - just a fast solid minimalist browser (no AI, no BS) - other features should be addons - privacy centric - builtin, first-class, adblocker - run on donations - partner with Kagi - layoff 80% of the non-tech employees I worked for them for many years, I guarantee you that Mozilla will be fine without all the non-sense people, just put engineers in c…

To expand on Firefox mobile: if you haven’t tried it, give it a shot. uBlock Origin works just like on desktop. I have seen maybe five ads on my phone browser (including Youtube!) since buying it in 2019.

Can I get details on ad blocking in Firefox on iOS? I have an ad blocker which works well in Safari but not Firefox. What am I missing?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by ByThyGrace »

mgbmtl wrote: post #41

I for one, am grateful to Mozilla for still being around, pushing for an open web. Their documentation is excellent, the improvements and roadmap for Thunderbird made me finally adopt it, and I appreciate their privacy-friendlier translation services. uBO works great in Firefox, and I can't stand using a browser without its full features. About MBA types: the free software project I work for has an MBA type, which I…

> despite everyone saying for 10+ years that they are going to die.

What many people have been saying in my experience is pretty much the opposite: that Mozilla isn't going anywhere because Google wants them (needs them) to be around. That it's their antitrust Trojan horse.

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Post by tristor »

mohamedattahri wrote: post #221
tristor wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only assume you're referring to Mitchell Baker? Mitchell Baker has gotten a /lot/ of negative comments on HN, and some for good reason, but the constant ask of "how she won the position" and the like just shows the ignorance of the commenters... Mitchell Baker co-founded Mozilla, and was the legal mind that structured both the split from Netscape that salvaged the code and wrote the majority of the Mozilla Publ…

I can question the qualifications of a person as it relates to a specific position (e.g. CEO), but that doesn't mean I don't respect their past contributions. I find the accusations of sexism towards anyone who dares question her as excessive as some of the comments that were made towards her.

> I can question the qualifications of a person as it relates to a specific position

Sure, but do people generally question the qualifications of founders that successfully grew something from inception? Or is it only for people who are women? Because I definitely see a trend in the comment threads in HN over the last many years.

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