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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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They had one. Until he made a fatal mistake of giving a tenner to the wrong people.

He gave $1000 donation to support a ban on gay marriage, to be clear.

And people don't have to all agree on the same things. People can get together to work towards cause X and then individually believe in mutually exclusive causes alpha, beta, gamma.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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They had one. Until he made a fatal mistake of giving a tenner to the wrong people.

But then he went on to make Yet Another Chromium Fork, so it doesn't seem like he was particularly attached to Gecko or what it stands for in the browser engine market anyway. What's to say that Mozilla wouldn't have given up the fight and pivoted to Chromium, like Opera and Edge did, if he was still in charge?

And he went in on integrating trendy things like Ads that pay crypto and AI integrated into the browser, so it's not like there wouldn't be AI if he were in charge.

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Looking at their strategy doc, it doesn't seem like they hear their users at all. It's riddled with AI. In fact their aspiration is "doing for AI what we did for the web." Oh boy! https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/278/files/2025...

I will eat my hat if Google had nothing to do with the demise of Mozilla, what an absolute disgrace. How incompetent can they be, how out of touch with their core (and arguably only) product ? Nobody wants AI in firefox.

I want a good AI integration with Firefox. The current chatgpt shim is horrible, something more refined would be nice.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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You want "Trust"?

Cut executive pay 75% back to what Brendan was getting paid, and invest that money in the company instead of lining your own pockets.

Ditch the AI crap that nobody wants or needs and focus on making a good browser and email application, and advertising them to increase user count.

Anything less than this is not trustworthy, it's just another lecherous MBA who is hastening the death of Mozilla.

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Looking at their strategy doc, it doesn't seem like they hear their users at all. It's riddled with AI. In fact their aspiration is "doing for AI what we did for the web." Oh boy! https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/278/files/2025...

I will eat my hat if Google had nothing to do with the demise of Mozilla, what an absolute disgrace. How incompetent can they be, how out of touch with their core (and arguably only) product ? Nobody wants AI in firefox.

Do we know for a fact that 'nobody wants AI in Firefox'?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Does anyone else feel like the "Trust" angle is the only card they have left to play? Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. Edge has better OS integration on Windows and comes by default. Safari wins on battery life on Mac. Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire." If they clutter the browser with AI which inherently requires data processing, often in the cloud, they dilute…

What does "faster JS" actually get me? Youtube is probably the most heavy site I and I think most people use, I'm certainly not trying to do heavy scientific computation in my browser, so what difference does it really make?

Anyway, Firefox's killer feature is still extensions, despite everything that's happened on that front. There's nothing like Tree Style Tabs for Chrome (not usably implemented anyway) and while I think maybe Brave has it, Firefox has uMatrix which is better than anything Brave uses (Brave may share lists or even code with that, but the uMatrix UI is where its at.)

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Looking at their strategy doc, it doesn't seem like they hear their users at all. It's riddled with AI. In fact their aspiration is "doing for AI what we did for the web." Oh boy! https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/278/files/2025...

I will eat my hat if Google had nothing to do with the demise of Mozilla, what an absolute disgrace. How incompetent can they be, how out of touch with their core (and arguably only) product ? Nobody wants AI in firefox.

Nobody wants three or four corporations manipulating and controlling information (with a mix of hallucinations) all behind a subscription. The large tech companies have nearly universally lost all trust.

The models I've run recently on Ollama seem to about as good as the models I was running at work a year ago. The tech isn't there yet, but I see a path. I would be fine with that enhancing, not replacing, my usage.

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As a semi Rust hater, but Firefox user, I believe Mozilla should go absolutely all-in on Rust, for a mixture of direct and indirect effects. That and/or launch an open source e-Reader development project. No MBA type is going to be able to do anything of the sort.

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Obviously through pagan rituals

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Does anyone else feel like the "Trust" angle is the only card they have left to play? Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. Edge has better OS integration on Windows and comes by default. Safari wins on battery life on Mac. Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire." If they clutter the browser with AI which inherently requires data processing, often in the cloud, they dilute…

"Trust" is just community goodwill, and Mozilla has steadily been chipping away at that goodwill by pivoting to AI and ad businesses, and occasionally implying that it's the community that wants things like AI, and it's the community's fault for misunderstanding their poorly written license agreement.
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