I refuse to use VS Code on principle. It has captured a staggering percentage of software development, across many software disciplines. Somehow ARM/Keil has been persuaded to go all-in on VS Code and will deprecate their "legacy" IDE, which will cause trouble for any hold-out embedded firmware developers.
VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
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Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#62If anyone is considering moving editors, I was recently in the same boat and I can’t recommend enough lazyvim + the ebook “lazyvim for ambitious developers”. This gets you a fully featured vscode-like baseline (navigation, language integration, integrated terminal, the whole thing). I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward. With…
I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward. For me Helix gets enough right out of the box I find myself reaching for it far more than I ever did with vi or Emacs. They're working on plugin support but I've not felt the need to investigate it at all.
Is there a good solution to managing "workspace", especially handling multi-folder workspace? I have a project where code lives in giant monorepo, and the files I edit don't have the same root (more precisely, the root is too large to open in the editor). I haven't found a good solution outside VSCode yet.
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#63Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This piece of news follows that of Copilot being added in an "update" to LG TVs with no option to disable or opt out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46268844
Simple, do not purchase LG TV.
I have a C8 from LG, and I'm so happy with it after so many years, works wonderfully as a dumb panel, and a great panel at that. I wonder if it's impossible to use the newer ones like that. Anyone has any experience? Asking because our neighbors want the same great "tv".
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#65If anyone is considering moving editors, I was recently in the same boat and I can’t recommend enough lazyvim + the ebook “lazyvim for ambitious developers”. This gets you a fully featured vscode-like baseline (navigation, language integration, integrated terminal, the whole thing). I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward. With…
> I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward What’s that initial barrier? Both Vim and emacs has great documentation that includes a tutorial, a guide, and a reference. What people often defines as workable system is replicating their old editors instead of learning the current one. Like adding a file tree on the side
>What people often defines as workable system is replicating their old editors instead of learning the current one. Like adding a file tree on the side
Well, kinda. I define a workable system as a system I, personally, can work with straight away, with a minimum loss of productivity. It is not at all meant as a judgement on how good plain vim/emacs are.
This workability indeed might require temporally replicating old habits while I learn the new ones, which lazyvim does. Vscode-like file trees, global search, or integrated terminal, for example.
It's also about discoverability, like the helpers shown through which-key. And the guarantee that a set of default plugins play well with each other, so that I can leave toying with the config for whenever I have the time.
Some people might think this is a crutch for properly learning the tool, but this is not my experience. I'm much more likely to get comfortable with vim and learn further if I can be in it 8 hours a day from the start. At first I used the integrated terminal to run git commands, now I invoke lazygit, which I love. At first I used the file tree to navigate, now I have custom commands to bring a file and its test suite side to side on a keypress. This gradual curve is what I was missing earlier.
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#66Great there are other true open-source tools to be used zed, nvim. I also noticed that copilot nowadays is forcing you to upgrade to their with following text: "You've reached your monthly code completion limit. Upgrade your plan to Copilot Pro (30-day Free Trial) or wait until 2025-12-19 for your limit to reset to continue coding with GitHub Copilot" Was using it actually like smarter auto-completion. But paying for…
> Great there are other true open-source tools to be used zed, nvim
without going into the actual qualities of the editor, they simply lack extension support, for now.
In the embedded space, many manufacturers have switched - or are switching - to a suite of VSCode plugins and gradually discontinued the previous tools. Which is great on one hand: they don't have to keep supporting heavily modified IDEs from 10 or 20 years ago and they can better integrate with the rest of the ecosystem of plugins, scripts automation and such. LSP has been a good thing.
The problem is that you are now at the mercy of microsoft not fucking up with the environment at every other release. To put it simply, we are screwed. And i tried for so long not to use it because i knew this day would come, but it's just so much better.
And no, i will not just use a text editor and a makefile. I want an IDE. IDEs are good, when they seamlessly integrate with tools.
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#67can anyone recomend a alternative that is easy to install and also offers syntax highlighting? i have read about lazyvim and neovim, but both have extensive install requirments as i have read
What do you mean by "extensive install requirements"...
Anyway Zed is a good option.
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#68I thought everyone switched to cursor by now, why do people still use vscode?
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#69Microsoft doing Microsoft things, even with all those fresh coats of "open source" paint they bathe themselves in the last decade they really can't change their DNA. Expect the amount of f*ckery to increase as the AI realities set in but the number has to go up either way. It reminds me of the good old days of Visual Studio + .NET + SQL Server where they played these games too.
This made me laugh a bit as I remembered people saying “Oh we have Nadella now, things have changed”. Have they? Have they really?
Windows Recall.
VS Code forcing Copilot.
Windows forcing Copilot.
Office forcing Copilot.
Azure forcing Copilot.
GitHub forcing Copilot.
Outlook forcing Copilot.
Edge forcing Copilot.
You folks are insane.
Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward What’s that initial barrier? Both Vim and emacs has great documentation that includes a tutorial, a guide, and a reference. What people often defines as workable system is replicating their old editors instead of learning the current one. Like adding a file tree on the side
Learning an entirely new editor is a barrier. Documentation or not, that's brand new muscle memory you have to develop alongside the actual task of coding. I get that using vim typically includes obsessive forms of efficiency, but some people just want to focus on coding in a way that's comfortable to them. Sometimes that means having a side panel.
>Sometimes that means having a side panel.
I do not even need that. Modal editing is enough to keep me away from all the VI clones. I hate it with a passion.
I have a fully customized Emacs that I use for anything Lispy and it's great for that purpose but everything else is just "ok".
I try to use Zed but since it is a commercial offering it is just a matter of time until it gets entshitified too.
Vscode is/was really good but it seems to get worse and it's Microsoft.... I run out of editors it seems.