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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

mikkupikku wrote: post #238
Braxton1980 wrote: post #208

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>First off, the number of movies and TV shows that merit even being watched is dwindling The first item in your list to others is subjective

That's a popular and socially safe point of view, but it's completely wrong. Artistic merit, like truth and beauty, is an objective quality completely orthogonal to cultural differences or personal opinion. To illustrate this orthogonality, I invite you to realize there exists art which has great merit and yet which you personally do not like. You should be able to do this, if you can't manage I can provide my own ex…

Except... art and beauty (idk about truth) are subjective. You can attribute grades and points to art or TV shows, but whether any one person likes it is entirely subjective.

But of course, you mention "merit", which if my English is correct is "the amount of work / effort / skill involved". But I personally do not like the duct taped banana, and the work / effort / skill involved is minimal - and yet it's considered art, and people go out of their way to view it.

The Mona Lisa is "fine" (in my opinion), took skill to make, but it wasn't considered particularly exceptional in the works of Da Vinci - until it got stolen. It has objective "artistic merit", its beauty is subjective, but its financial and cultural value exploded through the roof due to its story.

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Post by isoprophlex »

tstrimple wrote: post #277
isoprophlex wrote: post #193

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Happy apple tv user for > 5 years now. It has icons for the apps you want to start on the home screen. You click the icons. The apps start. It's connected to a samsung tv that's not allowed wifi access. Besides the bad and steadily worsening UX of streaming apps like Netflix, my setup itself never shows me any ads. Also the apple tv remote has a very solid, premium feel, which i like

I just wish the remote wasn't so small that I can never find it after my girls use it. I've just gotten used to using the phone app.

If you have an iphone, you can search for it. It plays a game of hot/cold with the Bluetooth signal strength i guess, guiding you to it...

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Post by alias_neo »

SeriousStorm wrote: post #247
alias_neo wrote: post #187

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Maybe this is what I need to do. I disconnected our living room LG TV from the internet and got a Fire Stick 4K Max, but I hate it; 90% of the screen is advert, and you get a tiny sliver for the 5 apps it lets you see, and you have to go digging for the rest, not to mention the home-screen advertising isn't always appropriate for young children. I hadn't considered Apple TV because I've never been an Apple user, but…

Before you buy an Apple TV you can try installing ProjectIvy launcher and see if that suits your needs. It's basically a simplified launcher UI for Android TV devices. It's not perfect, not if it suits your needs you won't have to buy another device.

That's the one I tried on the Fire Stick, it doesn't always launch, sometimes launches a few minutes after start, and when pressing home it would go back to the default launcher.

I think it's related to the accessibility settings it wants enabled, I was never able to turn it on like it says because the setting just refuses to enable.

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Post by alias_neo »

BizarroLand wrote: post #270
alias_neo wrote: post #187

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Maybe this is what I need to do. I disconnected our living room LG TV from the internet and got a Fire Stick 4K Max, but I hate it; 90% of the screen is advert, and you get a tiny sliver for the 5 apps it lets you see, and you have to go digging for the rest, not to mention the home-screen advertising isn't always appropriate for young children. I hadn't considered Apple TV because I've never been an Apple user, but…

A cheap used mini desktop with a linux install on it is also a good way to go. Throw in a wireless mouse and keyboard and you can do not only what an AppleTV or Android box does but also everything a cheap used mini pc can do. Even something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127547167640 Would be a media powerhouse compared to almost any set top box you can buy. Throw OpenElec or OSMC on it for simple media setup o…

I'm a Linux user myself, and into hardware and self-hosting, so I have hardware coming out of my ears, but I wouldn't dare try and use a Linux box in the living room.

My wife and kids use the living room TV most, I barely use it, and only then if I'm watching with them, they use all of the streaming services so they want it to play in 4K and "just work", for which Linux is unfortunately not the solution.

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Post by neurostimulant »

Angostura wrote: post #150
russdill wrote: post #145

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OG Chromecast is specifically being phased out because it doesn't offer the same level of control as the current crop of "smart" TVs/devices.

I image they will be much sought-after, unless you are suggesting they are being bricked

My og chromecast frequently crash (I suspect due to running out of ram when casting contents) so I ended up replacing it with the chromecast ultra. The og chromecast is still usable if you can tolerate the crashing, but I imagine it's going to get worse as developers keep updating their cast players (basically a webpage that plays video) with new features that consume more and more ram.

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Post by anal_reactor »

slumberlust wrote: post #222
anal_reactor wrote: post #132

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It boggles my mind why anyone would update anything in 2025. Most products are shipped with full feature set and then updates ensure enshittification. The security argument doesn't apply because classic hacks rarely happen, it's mostly social engineering.

Should we assume by anything you mean edge devices? You don't update your PC? Your phone?

I update my PC but I don't update my phone. Android is pretty much a complete product, and new updates just shuffle around the icons.

> Major changes in Android 16

> Battery icons are changed to landscape, with the percentage shown inside the icon

I think it boils down to how much you trust the software vendor to operate in good faith. My PC runs on Fedora and those people don't have any QA, but at least they do their honest best. My gaming handheld is on Bazzite and it's a similar situation. But Google has a proven record of enshittification of Android. I turned off TV software updates long ago because I only use it as a dumb screen so I don't understand what is there to update. My headphones yell at me "there's firmware update available" but I don't want to discover what new problems were introduced, current firmware works correctly. I have a smart robot that's fully cloud-operated and they recently introduced a completely new app. I'll keep using the old app as long as I can because I don't want to be their beta-tester and the old app works. I have smart light system and there's no reason to update anything because the functionality "use remote control to choose the desired light setup" mostly works with small glitches that aren't too annoying.

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Post by colejohnson66 »

xgkickt wrote: post #299
colejohnson66 wrote: post #26

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And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Unless you’re the only deli in town.

Then your social media & newsfeeds are buzzing about salted coffee, and your work has mandated salt in the coffee, insisting that it increases productivity, and if you’re not partaking you might fail your next performance review.

Any press is good press, amirite?

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Post by adrianmsmith »

gridlocdev wrote: post #292
jncfhnb wrote: post #275

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Mini pc + HDMI. Oh look, everything is free and no ads

I’ve thought about doing this, what kind of device do you use for input? I have a Logitech K400 Plus portable keyboard and it works great for general use, but I end up using my Apple TV on the couch instead since I prefer using a TV remote / gamepad to navigate.

I have a Logitech K830, it's great. Alas they're not manufactured any more.

Modern equivalents are a lot cheaper. I think they might not have the backlight feature which is extremely useful, and I've dropped mine many times, even spilled coffee over it, and it still works flawlessly.

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Post by goku12 »

drnick1 wrote: post #280
goku12 wrote: post #245

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That's what I'm talking about. They'll gradually make it harder to use it without going online. May be by increasing the bootup times. Eventually they'll remove that option altogether. Isn't that what happened with Windows login? We can also expect them to add RF devices like 6G modems as they become more common. These corporations aren't going to leave that choice to you.

The choice is not to buy those devices if it comes to that. Car manufacturers also do similar things (onboard 4G/5G modem), and one solution (other than driving an old car) is to disconnect the cellular modem. Of course the issue is that few people know there is one in their cars in the first place, so they are unknowingly snooped on.

That works if you can convince everyone to follow your advice. I try to do that by doling out advises, making a fool of myself at every opportunity. But the companies are much better at gaslighting the consumers into submission.

For example, remember how a shadow organization funded by auto manufacturers tried to get people to vote no on opening up the vehicle diagnostics bus to the owners and 3rd party repair shops? They pushed the narrative that opening it up would make you an easy target for sex predators! They ran a bunch of very scary ads based on that plot. They were playing with the people's emotions and insecurities. I think it failed because a massive lobby of ordinary people including Louis Rossmann did a much better job of convincing the people of the truth. However, it was a tough job and they'll have to repeat it endlessly against the attempts by the much wealthier industrialists.

The fact is it's a losing game for us, simply because of the disparity in wealth between us and them. I wish we had more power on our side. I don't know what to do without it.

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