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Chevy Volt my beloved
Which wasn't actually an EREV. They wanted it to be, but it was more efficient not to.
Article says the next F-150 Lightning will be an EREV-style plugin hybrid. Which, if so, makes a lot of sense. EVs are great, but not so much for trucks. I was always bothered about how cars were either supposed to be all electric or all ICE. Working together is the smart way forward.
EREVs are a way better idea than the lie of PHEVs, but their time in the market is still limited. I wouldn’t be making that bet as an auto manufacturer , unless I had protectionism to hide behind.
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90% of F-150s are daily driver grocery-getters. That was the target for the Lightning, not truck stuff.
Which is odd because this is how they mostly marketed it on release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BmZ6Rgqkc Also most people I know who use F-150s in the way you describe also typically have two children or more. It's not as if this was a segment that was particularly hard to pin down. They just completely wiffed.
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I have heard great things about the Rivian trucks. They seem to have rabidly loyal customers, like the Teslas.
>I have heard great things about the Rivian trucks. They seem to have rabidly loyal customers, like the Teslas Dead last... https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/research/2025/10/24/cons... And have you seen the stories about fender benders? https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns... https://axleaddict.com/news/a-small-rivian-r1t-dent-just-cos... https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/7-months-…
>Ford expects to record about $19.5 billion in special items with the majority in the fourth quarter. It is believed that this is the largest impairment ever from a company.
1. GE took a $22B impairment in 2018.
2. Shell took a $22B write down in 2020.
3. ConocoPhillips incurred a $34B impairment in 2009.
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>> they'd at least let in the Chinese manufacturers that are interested in them. China's anti-market tactics in EV/battery supply-chain past 15 years haven't exactly helped promote EVs outside China -- they are now countervailed not only in the US, but also the EU, Canada, Turkiye; even in China-friendly nations, such as Brazil and Russia now are imposing restrictions on Chinese EV imports. Not very realistic.
What anti-market tactics? My understanding is they poured money over the whole market in a way that helped it grow faster, but didn't pick winners and doesn't subsidize the current pricing.
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The instantaneous torque definitely helps, and EVs are often heavier which helps with stability. But if you're towing anything with significant air resistance (e.g. a boat, a caravan, a big trailer) it kills your range. The general rule of thumb is that it will cut your range in half, which depending on your original max range is ok for some use cases, but unacceptable for others.
My f350 has 600 miles of range empty so it can go 300 towing.
That said, if it's not the towing but the bed you need, the range but isn't nearly so bad.
The F-150 is in one of the markets I think ev's will take over first (small commercial vehicles) but it just was not the right vehicle to start with. To expensive, even when the tax incentives were still a thing, and Ford suffers from having corrupt dealers taking a large cut on top of that. So you are selling to either the top 5% or bigger businesses. If you are a top 5% buying this you want it to tow your expensive…
Rivians are all over socal. I think there is a lot of demand in certain markets.