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2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by hammock »

sthuck wrote: post #35

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recom…

I found so much indie electronic music I loved to listen to back then, via last fm. I don’t listen to any of it any more. Or have any interest to

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by kaizenb »

zimpenfish wrote: post #64
Graziano_M wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

scrobbling since 10 Mar 2006 with 179,105 scrobbles.

Leading on start (15 Jan 2004) but woeful in the scrobbles (55164). In my defence, it was only recently that you could sensibly scrobble from iOS with Marvis and I gave up on Spotify countless years ago.

What is Marvis? I'm transitioning from Spotify to Apple Music and Last.fm doesn't have integration. Does Marvis solves this problem?

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by F3nd0 »

wantlotsofcurry wrote: post #7

I love last.fm with all my being. I recently created a ListenBrainz (same org as MusicBrainz) account which is an open source alternative that you don’t have to host yourself. I’m scrobbling to both places now just in case. Check out tapmusic.net too to make cool diagrams out of your scrobbled music.

Doesn't look like Tapmusic supports ListenBrainz; does it?

Then again, if all it does is collages, then ListenBrainz has a tool for that of its own.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by stuartmemo »

pogue wrote: post #62
stuartmemo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough, I'm trying to do this, and just posted in "What are you Working On?" Not sure I'll have much luck if Apple couldn't make it happen though! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46268285

Looks interesting, how do you get it to sync what I'm listening to with it? I use Pandora & YT Music as my only music services.

Thanks! Good shout, will definitely add support for YouTube. Pandora, however, is sadly blocked in the UK.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by Amorymeltzer »

moolcool wrote: post #34
twistslider wrote: post #17

Last.fm is still used quite a bit, mainly as a listening history tracker rather than a radio or recommendation engine. Spotify is still the only big streaming service with native platform-level scrobbling. For everything else it's a lot more DIY, usually with third party tools at the device level. A big reason it’s still relevant is the ecosystem around it. The API hasn't really changed in 15 years, which makes it ea…

Missing last.fm support is the only thing keeping me from switching from Spotify to Apple Music

Other recommendations in other siblings, but Neptunes on macOS and Finale on iOS are excellent. I only got into it a couple years ago, but aside from a few quirks, using those two has been super smooth and easy.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by quirino »

sthuck wrote: post #35

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recom…

The best way to discover music nowadays is RateYourMusic. I go to an album I like, read a couple reviews to find like-minded people and check out their profiles. They often have lists with their favorite albums.

The album chart queries are also incredible. The site has a very detailed system of genres and descriptors so you can find exactly what you want.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by erikig »

acephal wrote: post #51
xrd wrote: post #42

When I read the negative take on "it's always somebody else selecting the music for you" I really recoiled. My favorite way to listen to music today is BECAUSE there is someone choosing it for me. I love the human stories behind the music, and it is totally missing with algorithmic stuff. I love Gilles Peterson, and Derek Smith on KMHD, for example, exactly because they are terrific and interesting people and they br…

> My favorite thing about Napster and LimeWire was when you could find a song, and then BROWSE the hard drive of the person hosting that song. Soulseek lets you do this and is still going

Soulseek is still going?

I discovered so many artists, international variations of albums, live sessions and bootlegs from that app, it changed my relationship with music.

I have to go back and check it out.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by BubbleRings »

I filed my collaborative filtering patent in 1995, describing the core basic way that your “desert island 5 favorite albums”, and the 5 favorites list from many other people, could be used to recommend music you would like. The patent is a nice tutorial on how it is done, check it out here if you’d like:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9d/f9/19/08ac5ef...

Here is part of the story on my website… I’ll write it up better one of these days:

https://www.whiteis.com/similarities-engine

Yeah yeah it was a software patent. If that bugs you, you can take solace in the fact that I blew it executing on monetizing it. Microsoft ended up owning it and I went on to other adventures.

Here’s a list of the 456 US Patents that cite the Similarities Engine patent as prior art: https://www.whiteis.com/cites-to-se-patent

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by postalcoder »

sthuck wrote: post #35

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recom…

what.cd was the world's greatest music discovery mechanism. You could always ask for recommendations in the forums or in the comment thread of the albums pages. The community always delivered. I miss that type of camaraderie. I also spent more on music as a member of that community than since it has been disbanded.
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