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Freeing a Xiaomi humidifier from the cloud

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Re: Freeing a Xiaomi humidifier from the cloud

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That’s a lot of refilling. You might want to look into a whole house humidifier, I added an aprilaire 700 evaporative to my hvac ducts, it costs a few hundred $. Plumbed in, automatic. So much less screwing around

What sort of maintenance do you have to do on it?

Once a season / 6 mo of running you replace the evaporator panel, which is ~$50 for branded or $10 for amazon copies.

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Distilled water isn’t strictly necessary. I use mine with purified water with a reverse osmosis purifier. I periodically test the TDS of the water to confirm it is low. It’s fine.

I’ve run dyson ultrasonic humidifiers for a few years. The whole appartment was in white dust. Especially evident on some black leather bags in the wardrobe.

You can buy a cheap tester for TDS (total dissolved solids) for <$20. Test the water before pouring it into any ultrasonic humidifier.

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On a tangent note: don’t use ultrasonic humidifiers. Unless distilled water is used, they create a shit-ton of pm2.5 particles. Use evaporative humidifiers (just disks with myriads of small notches for water to cling on and a fan): https://us.smartmiglobal.com/pages/smartmi-evaporative-humid...

Are pm2.5 particles a problem if they are water soluble? After entering the body they will just dissolve.

Depends whether you want that stuff in kidneys and what have you.

Bigger particles are known to irritate the lungs and even cause asthma (google or ask gpt)

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I’ve run dyson ultrasonic humidifiers for a few years. The whole appartment was in white dust. Especially evident on some black leather bags in the wardrobe.

You can buy a cheap tester for TDS (total dissolved solids) for <$20. Test the water before pouring it into any ultrasonic humidifier.

I just switched to evaporative ones like smartmi I’ve mentioned.

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On a tangent note: don’t use ultrasonic humidifiers. Unless distilled water is used, they create a shit-ton of pm2.5 particles. Use evaporative humidifiers (just disks with myriads of small notches for water to cling on and a fan): https://us.smartmiglobal.com/pages/smartmi-evaporative-humid...

Don't use evaporative humidifiers(the motorized wet towel). I don't know if it actually cause legionellosis, but it's not very sanitary, and the sanitizing additives for those are known to be actually harmful. Use boiling type humidifiers (basically just electric tea kettles).

Water evaporates alomost completely and is changed daily (I rinse both container and disks in the tub with high-pressure mode from showerhead), so I don’t think any contamination is likely.

Been doing this for years.

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On a tangent note: don’t use ultrasonic humidifiers. Unless distilled water is used, they create a shit-ton of pm2.5 particles. Use evaporative humidifiers (just disks with myriads of small notches for water to cling on and a fan): https://us.smartmiglobal.com/pages/smartmi-evaporative-humid...

The best solution I've found a few years ago is one Venta LW 45 for every 30 m² of space. That's enough to run them on the lowest speed while maintaining acceptable humidity and CO₂ levels. Higher speeds are too noisy. Smaller machines evaporate less. For sub-zero outside temperatures, it's necessary to add at least 5 g of water to each cubic metre of air coming from outside. The recommended ventilation rate of 30 m³…

Chinese I’ve mentioned blew Ventra out of the water. I’ve been using humidifiers for the last 15 years and switched to smartme around 5 or something like that (liked the idea of auto speed and was tired of aged squickness after many years of its predecessor).

Haven’t used the first generation. Had a couple of the second (they notoriously had water level sensor issue that could be fixed just enabling “drying mode” that always ran for 8h after the sensor thought there were no water).

Third gen is the charm.

Cheap, effective (pump, double-bottom for rounded instead of flat tank — uses evry last drop), quiter, 5L tank, less creak after a few years.

tldr; I only wish it lasted whole 24 hours when it is -5C and lower outside, but I guess that requires 7-8L.

Also, having a few helps with the noise (I have total of three in my apartment).

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On a tangent note: don’t use ultrasonic humidifiers. Unless distilled water is used, they create a shit-ton of pm2.5 particles. Use evaporative humidifiers (just disks with myriads of small notches for water to cling on and a fan): https://us.smartmiglobal.com/pages/smartmi-evaporative-humid...

> Use evaporative humidifiers You don't have to buy one either. A suspended wet towel with a fan blowing on it will work very well. If you want to get fancy, have the last inch or two of the towel sitting in a tray of water.

I’m not sure that has a performance of 0.3L per hour (needed when it’s real cold outside).

But any thing beats nothing, I guess. Kudos to you

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> If you’re willing to use distilled water, ultrasonic humidifiers have their own advantages over evaporative. Unless you are anally retentive about cleaning it, ultrasonic humidifiers vaporize microbes into the air. There have been loads of studies about this. The only real way to avoid this is to use the humidifiers that are boiling the water.

The real pro tip is to get a whole home humidifier. They aren’t even that expensive. But I haven’t taken the plunge yet. They avoid all these issues and require way less maintenance than any other solution.

Can’t do that in the city :-)

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A humidifier needs network capability incase someone discovers a new version of water, or for the manufacturer to be able to patch remote exploits. https://xkcd.com/3109/

“Smart” is useful in many ways:

— you get notification on a phone when water is low;

— you can set automations for stuff like lower speed (noise) at night;

— make it turn off once the desired humidity is reached based on the other sensor (internal one is always off by 8-10% compared to a reading even 1m away).

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> If you’re willing to use distilled water, ultrasonic humidifiers have their own advantages over evaporative. Unless you are anally retentive about cleaning it, ultrasonic humidifiers vaporize microbes into the air. There have been loads of studies about this. The only real way to avoid this is to use the humidifiers that are boiling the water.

The real pro tip is to get a whole home humidifier. They aren’t even that expensive. But I haven’t taken the plunge yet. They avoid all these issues and require way less maintenance than any other solution.

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