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Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by igor47 »

Aurornis wrote: post #799
markus_zhang wrote: post #611

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My recommendation is to completely drop the Apple ecosystem, however painful it is. I do use an iPhone but I treat it as just a phone. If Apple locks me out I dgaf.

Comments like this remind me of my distant relatives who proudly live out in the countryside and avoid traveling to big cities for any reason. They see a lot of Fox News headlines about bad things happening in big cities and they've concluded those bad things are happening all the time. So they constantly congratulate themselves for not going to the nearest city, look down upon people who spend time in cities, warn u…

Huh you got me with this analogy. On the other hand, can't this be said about any bad thing? Few bad things are always bad. A few examples:

* My liberal relatives won't own guns because they keep hearing stories about how guns are deadly, even though I own guns and nobody's died yet

* My friend's kid won't pet puppies because he heard they bite sometimes

* My aunt in Moscow didn't want to vote for Putin because he's "authoritarian", but my life is going great

How do you distinguish between things that are actually bad vs overreactions? Maybe it's just based on individual risk tolerance? I don't see the need to put my digital life in the hands of some unresponsive corporation, but the risk is worth it to you and we just have to agree to disagree?

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Post by igor47 »

ranger_danger wrote: post #693
anildash wrote: post #436

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People love to smugly suggest this useless advice like there aren’t literal public services from governments around the world that are being tied to these platforms, let alone the many private companies which gate access to their goods and services behind apps on proprietary devices. To say nothing of the fact that well-adjusted humans need to communicate with friends and family, and many times that also practically…

I think it's because they're usually not well-adjusted humans, they live in a fantasy (basement) world that is not realistic.

Rude, not to mention this reads as "resistance is futile, just obey in advance".

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Post by igor47 »

Aurornis wrote: post #775
franga2000 wrote: post #328

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There's always a workaround. There are banks with far less annoying root checking and you can just switch. Many banks allow SMS or a physical authenticator for web banking or 3DS 2FA. There are also many was to bypass root detection. If your main problem is 3DS 2FA for online card payments, get a proxy card.

> There's always a workaround. And the workaround is always far more work than I want to do, for virtually no upside for me.

Tragedy of the commons in a nutshell.

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Post by mistercheph »

rvnx wrote: post #641
mistercheph wrote: post #504

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Someone has to be the stick in the mud, right? I personally enjoy being that guy that doesn’t have a smartphone and causing problems in every government office / institution that assumes everyone has a smartphone, it’s like I’m a pioneer on the frontier :) E-stim addicts will rationalize their slavery to a small rock in their pocket and sing grand songs about how it’s a curse but they need it. Like all addicts, they…

Reality is that you are the one paying the price, you will spend 45 minutes extra at the office when you could have spent it with your family or friends or playing soccer. Time is the most precious thing in life, you’ll never be able to buy it back so you may want to reconsider long-term.

Pretty sure I'm getting >10x returns on my time for the minor inconveniences I suffer, most people sacrifice a double digit percent of their time on Earth to the device in their pocket.

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Post by queenkjuul »

macNchz wrote: post #426
queenkjuul wrote: post #380

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Are you in the US? I'm just always a little surprised to read things like "i couldn't live without Amazon," and i wonder if there are no other alternatives for two day shipping on other countries or what it is that keeps people stuck on Amazon instead of using other next-day deliveries

People in my circles in the US (in an area with tons of alternative options) look at me like I have two heads when I say we don’t have Prime and never shop on Amazon. For many, I think, Amazon has simply been the default option to buy anything for long enough now that it’s ingrained muscle memory.

Target will deliver anything i want next day for free, without a subscription, and same day with a subscription. Walgreens, 2 days. There's almost never anything i need faster than 2 days time that one of them doesn't have. And if i do, well, then worth the premium to go to an actual physical shop.

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Post by queenkjuul »

monerozcash wrote: post #384
queenkjuul wrote: post #380

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Are you in the US? I'm just always a little surprised to read things like "i couldn't live without Amazon," and i wonder if there are no other alternatives for two day shipping on other countries or what it is that keeps people stuck on Amazon instead of using other next-day deliveries

I live between central London and a smaller European city, the competition is generally much much worse. Sure, for every individual item there might be a better better local option. I'd have to spend time finding that, then go through the terrible order process and hope their delivery service isn't utter shit. Oh, and yeah, half the time they'll probably block my order because I'm using a non-european card. Just bein…

Why i asked what country, here in the US i can order same-day or next-day from several other places than Amazon for roughly the same price, and without paying for prime

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Post by duxup »

colechristensen wrote: post #720
duxup wrote: post #690

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>go through with the lawsuit That's a big ask.

Well... who else is going to defend victims if they're not going to defend themselves? Particularly when the person is presumably rather well resourced. Justice is dead when nearly everybody just makes backroom deals with no admissions of guilt and nondisclosure of terms if they even defend themselves at all. A person who is capable of defending themselves owes it to those who aren't as able; if even the most resourc…

I'm not sure even if someone goes through an excessive expense that anyone else is better off.

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Post by tonymet »

ryandrake wrote: post #666
rvnx wrote: post #523

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Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP. It is totally normal in today’s world to depend on cloud services and reasonably difficult to do without it. In China: no WeChat you are practically dead. Here try to join meetings without account, try to send a message on WhatsApp without account, etc… a lot can go wrong very fast. What if you used your Apple account as SSO to…

It is possible to suggest preventative/corrective action without blaming OP. I find it kind of sad that you can't make helpful suggestions (to future potential victims) without someone saying you're "victim blaming."

you're right there's a fine line. I interpreted the tone of most as judgmental / critical.

saying "get a lawyer" or "file a complaint" is constructive. saying " it's your fault for not backing up" or "that's what you get by using cloud" is just judgmental. Neither are practical solutions, regardless. Even with perfect backups it would have happened. And for 99% of social people, it's impossible not to cloud.

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Post by pxx »

ryandrake wrote: post #673
jasode wrote: post #239

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>It's just insane that a gift card redemption can trigger this. It's also the buying of gift cards that can get Apple accounts locked: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/r8b1lu/apple_will_pe... If enough of these horror stories are publicized, people will learn to never buy/redeem Apple gift cards because of the real possibility of account bans. - Don't give Apple gift cards to family and friends: You're potenti…

The "gift card" in general is an anachronism whose time has passed. They have got to go. If companies are going to consider use of gift cards as red flags (as they often are, due to their being key components in money laundering and scams), then society should just abandon them. They are worse in every way than a prepaid credit cards, and in most cases where you want to give someone a gift card, you should probably j…

You can give your postal carrier a gift card but they're not allowed to accept cash or a prepaid card. https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2012/pb22349/html/cov...

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Post by bigyabai »

nlh wrote: post #30
udev4096 wrote: post #20

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That's an unhelpful and unnecessarily nasty comment. Millions and millions and millions of people trust Apple. Whether you agree or not, to say they "deserve" something like this for doing what any normal person on this earth would do (and is marketed-at to do) is obnoxious.

"deserve" is an unnecessarily harsh word, but I'd be lying if I said you weren't courting fate. The day iCloud is revealed to be a FVEY racket, I won't feel pity for the users.
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