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Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by gond »

andreashaerter wrote: post #680
QuiEgo wrote: post #619

1. This is a total nightmare, the author has my deepest sympathy. 2. Last time there was a post where this happened to someone, I looked into what you can do if you're locked out of your Apple ID or Google Account. I know people will say "just self host", but all of the self-hosting solutions are not friendly to families or non-tech people. Telling my extended family to tailscale into my server to look at family phot…

> All of the self-hosted solutions are also just way less smooth to use than the built-in integration iCloud or Google Drive gives with devices. The built-in integrations (iCloud, Google Drive) are smooth right up until you’re locked out or forced into changes you can't control. Obviously. There is a middle ground though: managed service providers (per-service). You don't have to self-host everything in your basement…

Can you give an example? I am looking for a way out.

I kind of self hosted for decades on a virtual server until I couldn’t keep up with it. So much stuff broke something in the stack, bringing the server down. Often, I had to initiate a full lock down on everything before going up again, consuming a day’s effort or two.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by dbtc »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #668
quickthrowman wrote: post #587

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I’m not trying to be rude, but what is the point of buying and then redeeming gift cards yourself? I just pay Apple with my credit card when I want to buy something. Is this some kind of weird credit card rewards churning thing? Are you unbanked? I don’t understand why you’d voluntarily add unnecessary extra steps. A credit card offers far more protections to consumers than a gift card. Given the amount of false posi…

If you want to trade in an old phone without doing it at the time you purchase a new one, the only way to receive the trade in value is via an Apple gift card. I was looking forward to getting $160 gift card for my old iPhone 11 but after reading all this I think I’ll just leave it in a drawer.

If you sell it directly to another human, or even use something like ebay, you'll get more and they'll pay less.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by xigoi »

userbinator wrote: post #296
cerved wrote: post #221

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Probably they tried a real operating system.

Linux and the other unices are great for their CLI, but GUIs seem more like an afterthought on that side.

I’ve been using COSMIC for the past month and it definitely doesn’t feel like an afterthought. Unlike Windows, it has window tiling, for one.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by EvanAnderson »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #728
rvnx wrote: post #598

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The main side-effect is the lack of trust and integration. For example, if you self-host your email (or more realistically push it on a VPS), then the moment you want to send an e-mail you are going to be marked as spam. To register on some websites you may sometimes receive: “please use real email from gmail/outlook/etc”. When you have a business meeting with a customer: “oh just install Jitsi on your mobile phone”…

I get what you are saying, but the examples are not great: I've rarely seen (if ever?) a website so stupid and user hostile, to claim that there are no other "real" e-mail service providers out there, other than gmail, outlook, or a maybe a few others. There are services, which reject things like tempmail, that much I have seen, definitely. Jitsi Meet runs in the browser. Does it not on a mobile phone? Perhaps there…

Concert and theatre venues in the US, mostly locked into exclusive agreements with Ticketmaster, practically require a smartphone running the Ticketmaster app. You can load the tickets into the Apple and Google "wallet" apps but you have to have the Ticketmaster app to do that. In the past year I've had to pretend to be a confused elderly person and beg box offices to get me printed tickets because I don't want to load the Ticketmaster app. Eventually I'll have to buy a burner device, assuming I still want to attend live events.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

dbtc wrote: post #782
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #668

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to trade in an old phone without doing it at the time you purchase a new one, the only way to receive the trade in value is via an Apple gift card. I was looking forward to getting $160 gift card for my old iPhone 11 but after reading all this I think I’ll just leave it in a drawer.

If you sell it directly to another human, or even use something like ebay, you'll get more and they'll pay less.

Thanks, I’ll look into doing that :)

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by QuiEgo »

andreashaerter wrote: post #680
QuiEgo wrote: post #619

1. This is a total nightmare, the author has my deepest sympathy. 2. Last time there was a post where this happened to someone, I looked into what you can do if you're locked out of your Apple ID or Google Account. I know people will say "just self host", but all of the self-hosting solutions are not friendly to families or non-tech people. Telling my extended family to tailscale into my server to look at family phot…

> All of the self-hosted solutions are also just way less smooth to use than the built-in integration iCloud or Google Drive gives with devices. The built-in integrations (iCloud, Google Drive) are smooth right up until you’re locked out or forced into changes you can't control. Obviously. There is a middle ground though: managed service providers (per-service). You don't have to self-host everything in your basement…

Any particular examples you have in mind?

All of the options outside of the big ones (iCloud, Google Drive, OneDrive) seem vastly more fiddly and difficult to share with non-technical people. e.x. sharing a budget spreadsheet with my wife, shared photo albums, and so on.

If there are other options out there that work as well as iCloud or Google Drive, I'd love to learn about them.

The best I've been able to land on is making a local copy of the data under my absolute control, while using one of the top tier providers for my "live" copy.

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Post by Fogest »

leptons wrote: post #779
Fogest wrote: post #716

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"all it takes" is a very naive simplification of how to accomplish this solution and is much more complicated for a non tech savvy person than just hitting "yes" on a backup option their phone prompts them for.

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I feel like you must be in a social bubble if you think this is a task the average Walmart American views as easy. These devices also are typically marketed for PC backup and don't usually make backing up their phones "easy". It also is something they'd have to regularly remember to do. It's substantially easier for a user to have their photos immediately and automatically backed up to icloud or Google Photos, and you're being intentionally obtuse if you're suggesting otherwise.

It's also not at all appropriate to claim people are "developmentally challenged" simply because they don't feel comfortable backing up their own data regularly to an external device. As such I have also flagged your comment.

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Post by rvnx »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #728
rvnx wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main side-effect is the lack of trust and integration. For example, if you self-host your email (or more realistically push it on a VPS), then the moment you want to send an e-mail you are going to be marked as spam. To register on some websites you may sometimes receive: “please use real email from gmail/outlook/etc”. When you have a business meeting with a customer: “oh just install Jitsi on your mobile phone”…

I get what you are saying, but the examples are not great: I've rarely seen (if ever?) a website so stupid and user hostile, to claim that there are no other "real" e-mail service providers out there, other than gmail, outlook, or a maybe a few others. There are services, which reject things like tempmail, that much I have seen, definitely. Jitsi Meet runs in the browser. Does it not on a mobile phone? Perhaps there…

I agree with you, and I think your reasoning is totally understandable. Just that I see additional friction, and friction in a business world is risk :/

(side-note, with Jitsi, it feels like I have a fireplace log in the hands when I use it)

I think Samsung rejected non-"Big Emails", but pretty sure we can find exceptions both ways.

Fun stuff I found while searching: > https://transportation.ucsc.edu/buses-shuttles/dvs/ > > The Disability Van Service (DVS) is a shared-ride service that provides on-campus wheelchair ramp–equipped transportation for those unable to use the regular Campus Transit system due to disability > > If you are a visitor, please use a Gmail address to complete the form or email dvs@ucsc.edu if that is not possible

and then, the form is behind... a Google login wall

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by rvnx »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #784
zelphirkalt wrote: post #728

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get what you are saying, but the examples are not great: I've rarely seen (if ever?) a website so stupid and user hostile, to claim that there are no other "real" e-mail service providers out there, other than gmail, outlook, or a maybe a few others. There are services, which reject things like tempmail, that much I have seen, definitely. Jitsi Meet runs in the browser. Does it not on a mobile phone? Perhaps there…

Concert and theatre venues in the US, mostly locked into exclusive agreements with Ticketmaster, practically require a smartphone running the Ticketmaster app. You can load the tickets into the Apple and Google "wallet" apps but you have to have the Ticketmaster app to do that. In the past year I've had to pretend to be a confused elderly person and beg box offices to get me printed tickets because I don't want to lo…

Ah, perfect! One question: is Ticketmaster rejecting non-"Big email providers" ? I suspect they do, due to bots (wouldn't it be the same with Tinder, etc ?)

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Post by Groxx »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #746
Groxx wrote: post #72

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fwiw: when I've uploaded tracks I've purchased, it almost immediately locks them because they're copyrighted... because AFAICT it's a feature for independent musicians to upload their own stuff, not a library backup. all the text around it seems to support that interpretation.

oh that's interesting. i'd tried it several years ago but had not tried uploading anything like you did, so had not noticed that deficiency (randomly).

yea - in retrospect I think it's pretty clear about it from the text on the screens... but it surprised me too, because the initial UX is designed exactly like every other "upload your own music library so you can stream it anywhere" feature elsewhere. which is rather strangely blind to their own ecosystem, and tbh I don't see the purpose of a lightweight "upload your recordings from your phone!" feature, artists generally like a bit more control? afaict? or they just stream it somewhere without any metadata, neither of which seems viable with what Tidal's UI supports... but it's pushed in a prominent location for every listener on Tidal. surely there isn't anywhere near enough use to justify that... right?

I'm relatively happy with Tidal, but there are definitely a number of moments with it that make me sigh and internally say "see, this is why Spotify is winning". so much of it would be easy to change too, they just don't do it.

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