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Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by lukeschlather »

willaaam wrote: post #244
Rikudou wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm not a fan of regulating extremely huge companies, except for the way I'd regulate them."

We must have regulation, and I support that fully. It also seems healthy to me to have an independent view on the specifics of said regulations. I mostly agree with the vision and direction of the DMA, but in my opinion it lacks specificity and clear unacceptable boundaries. That lack of specificity, to me, is why Apple has been able to implement malicious compliance. At the same time the lack of specifics risks comp…

There's a difference between malicious compliance and noncompliance. The EU has generally ruled that the lack of specificity you allude to does not exist; Apple has misinterpreted things that provide specific requirements to mean something other than what they legally mean. Fines have been levied and it seems that the situation has not yet been resolved; the fines will likely grow if Apple doesn't comply.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_...

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Post by ocrow »

wildpeaks wrote: post #430
crossroadsguy wrote: post #274

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Not only local copies but also at least own and use one device where you have your important data that is not on the same OS ecosystem as the other device(s) - also helps with things like 2FA, password manager, etc., if shit has hit the ceiling fan on the other device. In addition, I always suggest people to: - Not use big tech's cloud services - ever - But if you must, do not use many cloud services from just one pr…

Cryptic hints only work while your memories remain intact, unexpected health issues can render them useless

I had a family member who had sudden onset of massive seizures. He could not remember any of his passwords or hints at all. It was a real challenge getting into any of his accounts to figure out what needed doing.

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Post by dotancohen »

kmbfjr wrote: post #528
mistercheph wrote: post #484

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LOL it’s not some sisyphean task to not use big tech products, its slightly inconvenient and takes some time to adjust, don’t talk about it as though it were something that only the great men of the ancient times could do, take your iPhone and throw it as hard as you can against the concrete, you will be fine.

Great advice if you don’t need a smartphone. Many do, they are now an identity tool. The alternative to Apple is…Google? How is that in any way better other than not being Apple? Sure, there are de-Googlefied versions of Android and today they work . But Google is actively working on ending the ability of those alternative operating systems to work.

In my country we have a large religious population that eschews smartphones. Thanks to this, all services - bank, government, etc - are available without requiring apps or even internet access.

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Post by broken-kebab »

tonymet wrote: post #492

I back up regularly using Google Takeout and similar tools, but I don’t think it’s fair to shame this author . Even if you have backups , your recent and essential content and credentials will be locked out . 1% of your content is the most important We all depend heavily on cloud storage and sso . Everything works fine until you are locked out . And using them isn’t fully voluntary. They are necessary for collaborati…

It could be a reasonable opinion, but unfortunate choice of words made it angry (and FWIW snobbish) towards wrong people.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

ethbr1 wrote: post #697
tonymet wrote: post #539

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Very true. And account integrity check pointing is stochastic and more aggressive so at any time there are people being locked out . One of 20 of your services could lock you out tomorrow and that means you’re blocked from coworkers and family

The root issue/risk is from cascading service dependencies, and I'm 99% sure this is done unintentionally at Apple et al. Team builds service. Service depends on first party identity/authentication because it's easier. ... Fast forward 20 years, and no one at platform company even understands the dependency graph from a customer perspective anymore. Especially in the case of rare events like account locks. Consequent…

Honestly it seems like nobody under this entire post has actually fully read the TOS for any Apple service.

I have once for iCloud... and the impression I got was that they must think close to 100% of the population on Earth are potential scoundrels for them to put in so many clauses and escape hatches.

I don’t think it’s possible to fully read any modern TOS from a bigco and not get an inkling of that.

The real issue is why are people signing up to TOS they haven’t fully read, and if they have… why are they signing up for something that directly spells out they are possible scoundrels who need to be dominated.

It’s like some kind of mass self humilitation ritual.

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Post by tonymet »

leptons wrote: post #670
tonymet wrote: post #492

I back up regularly using Google Takeout and similar tools, but I don’t think it’s fair to shame this author . Even if you have backups , your recent and essential content and credentials will be locked out . 1% of your content is the most important We all depend heavily on cloud storage and sso . Everything works fine until you are locked out . And using them isn’t fully voluntary. They are necessary for collaborati…

>You can try to be that “own cloud” snob but it only works if you live in a basement WTF is this about? So you think anyone proficient in hardware/software lives in a basement? This kind of derogatory statement does not belong on HN.

Own cloud is a fun hobby. Exclusively owncloud is entirely impractical.

It’s the snobby part that I’m critical of

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Post by dotancohen »

ho_schi wrote: post #500
immibis wrote: post #259

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- Don't use Apple. Or Google.

Or Microsoft. Stay as far away from BigIT as you can. Linux or BSD are there for many good reasons. This is another one.

Other than Android, what viable Linux options exist for mobile devices?

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Post by HumblyTossed »

rvnx wrote: post #523
tonymet wrote: post #492

I back up regularly using Google Takeout and similar tools, but I don’t think it’s fair to shame this author . Even if you have backups , your recent and essential content and credentials will be locked out . 1% of your content is the most important We all depend heavily on cloud storage and sso . Everything works fine until you are locked out . And using them isn’t fully voluntary. They are necessary for collaborati…

Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP. It is totally normal in today’s world to depend on cloud services and reasonably difficult to do without it. In China: no WeChat you are practically dead. Here try to join meetings without account, try to send a message on WhatsApp without account, etc… a lot can go wrong very fast. What if you used your Apple account as SSO to…

> Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP.

You see this a lot in the Apple "community". Apple can _never_ do wrong. Apple can _never_ make a mistake. Apple's choices are _always_ the best choices.

I don't understand why people put corporations on pedestals.

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

nullfield wrote: post #689
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #668

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If you want to trade in an old phone without doing it at the time you purchase a new one, the only way to receive the trade in value is via an Apple gift card. I was looking forward to getting $160 gift card for my old iPhone 11 but after reading all this I think I’ll just leave it in a drawer.

Not so. I just traded in/upgraded (on a Verizon contract, but AT the Apple Store; maybe that affects this… but still paying Apple directly) and they handed me the new phone and had FedEx send a trade-in mailer that I had a while to send back with my trade-in.

Ah but you told them at the time of purchase that you were going to do the trade-in. As I said. It’s different if you want to do the trade in later, which at that point looks more like “sell an old random phone back to Apple for some credits”
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