Late-stage capitalism in action. We have companies that are so insanely rich (despite losing equally insane amounts of money) that they can single-handedly corner worldwide markets for critical components in a brazen attempt to hurt the competition, and nobody will do a single thing about it.
Framework Raises DDR5 Memory Prices by 50% for DIY Laptops
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
The toilet paper thing didn't really happen though because there is so much shit people can produce at a time and the demand never increased if you scaled it to a 2 weeks period. There was enough stock in warehouses that 3 days later every store had a full stock again and the prices never increased.
Did we live through the same pandemic? At least where I live, there was shortages for weeks, and scarce for months. There was a real manufacturing shift that had to happen in the transition from commercial toilet paper to residential, which is made by totally different machines. The problem was real. It’s just that someone, seeing that real problem, triggered a panic buy that resulted in cleared shelves and a misallo…
How much RAM should they be allowed to buy? Who should decide that?
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#114Altman should be jailed for this. Single-handedly crashing consumer spending in an entire sector of the economy. At the very least for the reason that that was supposed to happen _after_ they had the AI in hand to supplant majority white collar labor, not before.
We’re contemplating jailing people for buying manufactured goods at the market price now?
As always, it's the intent that matters.
For the sake of argument, what if Amazon decided tomorrow that they would secure exclusive contracts with all food suppliers and then hoard all the food to starve out the people they don't want to have it? Or at least, drive up the price of food so it becomes completely unaffordable? I know people can simply grow their own food so it's a bit different, but hopefully it gets the point across. It's anti-trust on an unprecedented level.
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#115My question is, will the ram price go down at some point or is it a point of no return?
The situation is really sticky, since allegedly fabs are anxious to ramp up production, fearing the AI bubble will burst and they will be left with useless stock. So the usual supply chasing demand doesn't apply here and we might wait for a really long time...
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Horde it, Sam. For old times' sake.
It reminds me of the AI paperclip problem. The AIs are eating all the memory chips and energy. And GPUs of course. Except its caused by good old bubble capitalism.
> all the memory chips and energy. And GPUs of course.
Yes and no and yes.
AI is having a bad impact on electricity prices, but the actual graph of US electrical use was pretty flat for 20 years and is barely increasing even now. If the bubble keeps going strong we might see AI get up to 10% several years from now.
The RAM and GPU use is a whole different category of dominating.
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#117Ultimately this is OpenAI and their (circular) investors doubling down on a US sovereignty wet dream and "too big to fail". They might pull it off , but hell off a way to bet the economy dominos all on black.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you paid any attention to DDR5 prices prior to writing your comment? Answer Yes or No.
Yes, Framework made their comments like 1 or 2 days ago. They knew what was happening to RAM prices.
Here's what they actually said: "We are going to need to increase our memory pricing soon, but we won’t use this as an excuse to gouge customers like @Dell apparently has and that @Apple does as their norm."
No hypocrisy there.
They were replying to a screenshot showing a huge price per GB on Dell's site, but it looks like that screenshot was wrong? So a mistake on framework's part for not checking sources, but they've had a consistent and reasonable position on pricing.
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#119Placed an order from Lenovo on November 21st - 96gb of RAM in that machine, it still hasn't shipped yet - am wondering if/when they will try to "renegotiate" the deal... (supposed arrival date on that system is 01/02/2026)
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#120Altman should be jailed for this. Single-handedly crashing consumer spending in an entire sector of the economy. At the very least for the reason that that was supposed to happen _after_ they had the AI in hand to supplant majority white collar labor, not before.
We’re contemplating jailing people for buying manufactured goods at the market price now?
They didn't buy "manufactured goods", they reserved 40% of the yearly wafer output for the whole world that haven't even been made yet for themselves.