Live data from Hacker News

Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

raspberrypi.org

1–10 of 264 posts

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#2
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

I love the idea of educating students on the math behind AI to demystify them. But I think it's a little weird to assert "AI is not magic and AI systems do not think. It’s just maths." Equivalent statements could be made about how human brains are not magic, just biology - yet I think we still think.

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#4
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

> the team wants to tackle a major and common misconception: that students think that ANN systems learn, recognise, see, and understand, when really it’s all just maths

This is completely idiotic. Do these people actually believe that showing it can't be actual thought because it is described by math?

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#5
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

> the team wants to tackle a major and common misconception: that students think that ANN systems learn, recognise, see, and understand, when really it’s all just maths This is completely idiotic. Do these people actually believe that showing it can't be actual thought because it is described by math?

Wait until they hear about the physics/maths related to neurons firing!

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#6
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

You can replicate all calculations done by LLMs with pen and paper. It would take ages to calculate anything, but it's possible. I don't think that pen and paper will ever "think", regardless of how complex the calculations involved are.

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#7
post #2
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

I love the idea of educating students on the math behind AI to demystify them. But I think it's a little weird to assert "AI is not magic and AI systems do not think. It’s just maths." Equivalent statements could be made about how human brains are not magic, just biology - yet I think we still think.

Thinking is undefined so all statements about it are unverifiable.

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#8
post #190

[stub for offtopicness] (in this case, thinkiness)

You can replicate all calculations done by LLMs with pen and paper. It would take ages to calculate anything, but it's possible. I don't think that pen and paper will ever "think", regardless of how complex the calculations involved are.

You can simulate a human brain on pen and paper too.

Re: Using secondary school maths to demystify AI

#10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can replicate all calculations done by LLMs with pen and paper. It would take ages to calculate anything, but it's possible. I don't think that pen and paper will ever "think", regardless of how complex the calculations involved are.

You can simulate a human brain on pen and paper too.

It's an open problem whether you can or not.
Post reply on HN