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Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I have been using is since early Alpha and overall its pretty good. Certainty bug early on but now that I'm thinking on it I don't remember hitting any real issues in a few months now.

I still think the name Pop!_OS is dumb, they should just call it CosmicOS, as this new desktop is their defining feature and its a great name.

What is really amazing is that thanks to Cosmic now becoming an important part of Wayland, along with others, the community in total can finally move protocol forward that were blocked by really dumb ideological conflicts that are holding back Wayland. If Cosmic can take Gnome market share, people will be more willing to move on protocols without Gnome and hopefully eventually Gnome will realize that they have to implement this stuff, or at least large users of Gnome will realize it.

My with for Pop!_OS next major feature would be to embrace ZFS and build around it.

I'm also looking forward to seeing full Cosmic on ReduxOS.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I've been using 22.04 for about six months (AI development and some Steam games) - I really enjoy it. The 24.04 upgrade was flawless. It may sound a little odd but I'd describe my time with Pop!_OS as "quiet". It feels good to be total control again. I don't have to constantly disable things and there isn't a Copilot icon on my dock that comes back from the dead every few days. Obsidian, 1Password, VS Code, Warp, etc…

AI dev - any chance it works well with nvidia 5xxx series cards?

Not your question, but 4xxx-series work seamlessly.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I've been using 22.04 for about six months (AI development and some Steam games) - I really enjoy it. The 24.04 upgrade was flawless. It may sound a little odd but I'd describe my time with Pop!_OS as "quiet". It feels good to be total control again. I don't have to constantly disable things and there isn't a Copilot icon on my dock that comes back from the dead every few days. Obsidian, 1Password, VS Code, Warp, etc…

AI dev - any chance it works well with nvidia 5xxx series cards?

It should. The Linux/Nvidia experience is pretty much plug-and-play if you have modern drivers.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I used to hear about COSMIC and think "Glad to see more choice, but I doubt this will go anywhere". I wanted a Sway-like experience but with a desktop experience, and so tried it. It's surprisingly good: a DE with powerful enough window tiling. It's now my daily driver. Since they're backed by a sole company, I'm still not convinced on their longevity, but remain hopeful! I'm not familiar with Pop OS, which I now rea…

I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in between that? Does it include all the GNU system tools? Is there a lot of software that takes advantage of the COSMIC desktop environment? Do they have an App Store? Is it closer to something like Ubuntu or is it more like Android?

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I used to hear about COSMIC and think "Glad to see more choice, but I doubt this will go anywhere". I wanted a Sway-like experience but with a desktop experience, and so tried it. It's surprisingly good: a DE with powerful enough window tiling. It's now my daily driver. Since they're backed by a sole company, I'm still not convinced on their longevity, but remain hopeful! I'm not familiar with Pop OS, which I now rea…

I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in between that? Does it include all the GNU system tools? Is there a lot of software that takes advantage of the COSMIC desktop environment? Do they have an App Store? Is it closer to something like Ubuntu or is it more like Android?

It's based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, with their own DE

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in between that? Does it include all the GNU system tools? Is there a lot of software that takes advantage of the COSMIC desktop environment? Do they have an App Store? Is it closer to something like Ubuntu or is it more like Android?

It's based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, with their own DE

Does it use snap packages?

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I used to hear about COSMIC and think "Glad to see more choice, but I doubt this will go anywhere". I wanted a Sway-like experience but with a desktop experience, and so tried it. It's surprisingly good: a DE with powerful enough window tiling. It's now my daily driver. Since they're backed by a sole company, I'm still not convinced on their longevity, but remain hopeful! I'm not familiar with Pop OS, which I now rea…

I think even if the company goes away we will see this continue. It modern it rust and some if its fundamentals are already used by other projects. Of course not same way, but its not just going away.

I was introduced to UNIX in 1993, Linux in 1995's Summmer, and have lost count how many X Windows desktops or windows managers have come and gone in 32 years.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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I have been using is since early Alpha and overall its pretty good. Certainty bug early on but now that I'm thinking on it I don't remember hitting any real issues in a few months now. I still think the name Pop!_OS is dumb, they should just call it CosmicOS, as this new desktop is their defining feature and its a great name. What is really amazing is that thanks to Cosmic now becoming an important part of Wayland, a…

> the community in total can finally move protocol forward that were blocked by really dumb ideological conflicts that are holding back Wayland. If Cosmic can take Gnome market share, people will be more willing to move on protocols without Gnome and hopefully eventually Gnome will realize that they have to implement this stuff, or at least large users of Gnome will realize it.

Can you expand on what you mean here? I only somewhat follow Wayland/X11 migration/development, but from what I understand gnome is on Wayland, enough so that they apparently dropped x11 support from their upcoming release in march.

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