From GPT 5.1 Thinking: ARC AGI v2: 17.6% -> 52.9% SWE Verified: 76.3% -> 80% That's pretty good!
For a minor version update (5.1 -> 5.2) that's a way bigger improvement than I would have guessed.
GPT-5.2
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Re: GPT-5.2
#82Re: GPT-5.2
#83The benchmarks are very impressive. Codex and Opus 4.5 are really good coders already and they keep getting better. No wall yet and I think we might have crossed the threshold of models being as good or better than most engineers already. GDPval will be an interesting benchmark and I'll happily use the new model to test spreadsheet (and other office work) capabilities. If they can going like this just a little bit fu…
Re: GPT-5.2
#84It's actually more expensive than GPT-5.1. I've gotten used to prices going down with each latest model, but this time it's gone up. https://platform.openai.com/docs/pricing
Re: GPT-5.2
#85Competition works!
GDPval seems particularly strong.
I wonder why they held this back.
1) Maybe this is uneconomical ?
2) Did the safety somehow hold back the company ?
looking forward to the internet trying this and posting their results over the next week or two.
COMPETITION!
Re: GPT-5.2
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're also in benchmark saturation territory. I heard it speculated that Anthropic emphasizes benchmarks less in their publications because internally they don't care about them nearly as much as making a model that works well on the day-to-day
How do you measure whether it works better day to day without benchmarks?
That's still benchmarking of course, but not utilizing any of the well known / public ones.
Re: GPT-5.2
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have found Claude‘s voice chat to be better. I only recently tried it because I liked ChatGPTs enough, but I think I’m going to use Claude going forward. I find myself getting interrupted by ChatGPT a lot whenever I do use it.
Claude’s voice chat isn’t “native” though, is it? It feels like it’s speech-to-text-to-LLM and back.
Re: GPT-5.2
#88>- The UI should be calming and realistic.
Yet what it did is make a sleek frosted glass UI with rounded edges. What it should have done is call a wellness check on the user on suspicion of a co2 leak leading to delirium.
Re: GPT-5.2
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're also in benchmark saturation territory. I heard it speculated that Anthropic emphasizes benchmarks less in their publications because internally they don't care about them nearly as much as making a model that works well on the day-to-day
Seems pretty false if you look at the model card and web site of Opus 4.5 that is… (check notes) their latest model.
I use Gemini, Anthropic stole $50 from me (expired and kept my prepaid credits) and I have not forgiven them yet for it, but people rave about claude for coding so I may try the model again through Vertex Ai...
The person who made the speculation I believe was more talking about blog posts and media statements than model cards. Most ai announcements come with benchmark touting, Anthropic supposedly does less / little of this in their announcements. I haven't seen or gathered the data to know what is truth
Re: GPT-5.2
#90> While GPT‑5.2 will work well out of the box in Codex, we expect to release a version of GPT‑5.2 optimized for Codex in the coming weeks. https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/
Hm, yeah, strange. You would not be able to tell, looking at every chart on the page. Obviously not a gotcha, they put it on the page themselves after all, but how does that make sense with those benchmarks?