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Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by eisa01 » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 2:55 AM UTC

The spam filter in Gmail is too aggressive. I've actually gotten interview confirmations in my spam folder (!), which I was lucky to notice.

And I just checked my spam folder and found three legitimate emails. They were from Linked in, glassdoor and HBO. Google really needs to improve.

edit: Make that Udacity as well..

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by underwater » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:03 AM UTC

bosch wrote: post #41

People who do this are really annoying and have no concepts of separating business and personal life. If you don't mix business with pleasure then why are you doing it with your e-mail? How hard is it to check two accounts or have two accounts setup on your phone? There are some lines where business and personal shouldn't cross and e-mail is one of them. How does the appearance look? You send e-mail to foo@business.c…

There may also be liability when you leave the job as you're retaining copies of data that doesn't belong to you.

Not to mention that in the case of a lawsuit you might be required to give access to relevant emails. Mixing personal and professional accounts could quickly get messy.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by sliverstorm » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:05 AM UTC

MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #44

bosch wrote: post #41

People who do this are really annoying and have no concepts of separating business and personal life. If you don't mix business with pleasure then why are you doing it with your e-mail? How hard is it to check two accounts or have two accounts setup on your phone? There are some lines where business and personal shouldn't cross and e-mail is one of them. How does the appearance look? You send e-mail to foo@business.c…

Gmail allows you to send from your other email addresses through the web interface. It is nice having multiple accounts in the same mailbox so they can share labels. I don't think it's a violation of trust to have mail forwarded from one account to another account on the same provider. Email does not have an implied amount of security or privacy. Sending email is like sending a postcard--Anyone involved in its transi…

I'd say it is more analogous to regular first-class mail in an envelope. There is some expectation of privacy, but no guarantee.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by orangethirty » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:05 AM UTC

After reading this thread I went over to my gmail spam filter. Five business opportunities right there waiting in the spam folder for a reply.Gmail was the last Google service I was using, but I must now depart for better pastures. Hello nuuton email. You have just been borned.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by doesnt_know » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:07 AM UTC

overbroad wrote: post #73

sbierwagen wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many blacklists include all the EC2 addresses: for obvious reasons, they get used to send spam a lot.

Do you think that is a smart idea? To black list entire netblocks? I mean, can we assume that every person using EC2 for email is sending spam? It would seem to degrade the usefulness of EC2 for anyone wanting to run their own mailserver.

It doesn't really matter if it's "a smart idea", it already happens and you have no control over it. A simple search for setting up your own mail-server is just a search for people who have done that saying "don't ever setup a personal mail server because it's guaranteed to be blacklisted".

Spam has lead email to basically become this closed ecosystem. If you don't use one of the already established major email providers, ISP's or domain name registrars the reliability of email hits the floor.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by tghw » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:13 AM UTC

akkartik wrote: post #58

tghw wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, you can't use "in:", "is:", "label:", or "has:star" in filters. Filters are applied before these things are determined. If you try to, you get the following message from GMail: Filter searches containing "label:", "in:", "is:", or stars criteria (i.e. "has:yellow-star") are not recommended as they will never match incoming mail. Do you still wish to continue to the next step?

It's worked for me for years: http://i.imgur.com/bUB3u.png

Odd. I've never gotten it to work. I tried again today just to see if they may have changed that, but still gives me the error.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by akkartik » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:14 AM UTC

tghw wrote: post #86

akkartik wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worked for me for years: http://i.imgur.com/bUB3u.png

Odd. I've never gotten it to work. I tried again today just to see if they may have changed that, but still gives me the error.

I think I remember seeing the message actually. You just blow past it and setup the filter, and it'll work, I think.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by thrownaway2424 » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:22 AM UTC

philip1209 wrote: post #40

Does anybody have a suggestion for a simple email forwarding service for random domains? e.g., if I own example.com, is there a simple way with high uptime to forward all incoming email to all addresses to an email account at a separate domain?

These kind of "catch-all" domain forwarders are a terrible idea.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by rbanffy » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:29 AM UTC

Why would anyone want to forward work e-mail to a personal account when both are on Gmail? I would understand if the work e-mail messages were on a server that cannot be accessed from outside the office (although, if such a policy exists, you should ask yourself why and, probably, not auto-forward it) or something with a horrible and confusing interface or very limited space, but not here.

Re: How to use Gmail to destroy your relationship with your investors and customers

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Post by ww520 » Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 3:41 AM UTC

The root cause of the problem is the hassle in dealing with multiple email accounts. OP decided to consolidate by forwarding emails from multiple accounts int one. I found the WebMail Notifier add-on for Firefox invaluable when dealing with multiple email accounts. It let me keep the accounts separate yet able to see new emails in them and login to multiple accounts with ease. There's no need to consolidate, just managing them better.