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Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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A pager is not a phone. Pagers and portable radios are not multi-purpose devices. You can't watch Frozen on a pager.

Kids love to grab anything that is interesting to them.

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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This conversation already has comments on one side flagged to invisibility. If you are going to allow these conversations, but only allow one side, then Hacker News is not about discussion but about what?

If there are flagged comments which are not breaking the site guidelines, I'd like links to take a look at. The moderation intention is for comments which break the site guidelines to be flagged, regardless of which side they are or aren't on. It's not possible to reach this state perfectly, of course.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46218945

That one doesn't seem to violate the rules, and there is a lot of discussion below it.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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You literally do not understand antisemitism or semitic people or genetics or ethnic and national identity.

Israel's goal since the beginning was to exist, to be able to live. Antisemitism has literally never meant hatred against various semitic people such as Ethiopian semites or Assyrians it has always been a term to describe Jew hatred, coined by a German Jew hater. Also semitic is not a genetic thing, its a language thing and various identities tied to various semitic languages largely do not see it as a useful grouping. I have never heard of pan-semitic movement similar to pan Germanic or pan Slavic ones(those were not universally popular when they existed but they did exist and had some popularity). About half of Israeli Jews ancestors didn't recently live in Europe (and most of those had ancestors who lived elsewhere in MENA). Finally when it comes to genetics both Jews and Palestinians have substantial overlapping ancestry to the ancient Levant region as well as ancestry from outside of it, but that doesn't really change people's minds on ethnic identity and nationalism

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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> 95% of flagged comments don't break guidelines in any given discussion That number is much too high IMO, so I assume we interpret the site guidelines very differently. > as example, just below there is reply to you saying that flagging been abused, been flagged I assume you mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46221396 ? No, you'd see "[flagged]" if that were the case. The comment is [dead], but it was killed…

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A lot of my comments calling out Israel for this terrorist attack are flagged.

Also, this should certainly not be flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46219097

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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"please verify that you're feeling something different—quite different—from anger and a desire to fight this war." Um, why is it inappropriate to be outraged that international humanitarian lwas are actively being violated by Israel, in Gaza?

I don't think they're saying it's inappropriate. It seems like they're saying this isn't the place to share your outrage.

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This is why Grim Beeper was so enlightening for me. It proved that Israel could go above and beyond to limit collateral damage with some brilliant attack no one has even contemplated before and there would still be people online saying it was a war crime.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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You literally do not understand antisemitism or semitic people or genetics or ethnic and national identity. Israel's goal since the beginning was to exist, to be able to live. Antisemitism has literally never meant hatred against various semitic people such as Ethiopian semites or Assyrians it has always been a term to describe Jew hatred, coined by a German Jew hater. Also semitic is not a genetic thing, its a langu…

You are exactly correct, and this is all 101 level stuff. I wonder where they get their confidence from.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Two things Firstly, generals, like anybody else can be terrorized. Secondly, even if you only kill generals, that doesn't mean you didn't cause terror for everybody else. Imagine for example that Hezbollah found a way to poison the food for Israel's top X military personnel. It would cause a state of emotional terror for many people in Israel about their food safety for decades most likely, even if they weren't in th…

No. Generals are always legitimate military targets.

So let me just understand your position here. Suppose the US declares war on Venezuela. Suppose a venezuelan living in America just looks up a bunch of US generals addresses online, and then sets all their houses on fire killing them in their sleep in their McMansions in suburbia.

Are you saying that's a valid military strike, and therefore can't possibly be terrorism? Suppose this person is so successful he kills 1,000 and generals and numerous quit their jobs and move in fear for their life, just to really clarify what you're arguing here.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Two things Firstly, generals, like anybody else can be terrorized. Secondly, even if you only kill generals, that doesn't mean you didn't cause terror for everybody else. Imagine for example that Hezbollah found a way to poison the food for Israel's top X military personnel. It would cause a state of emotional terror for many people in Israel about their food safety for decades most likely, even if they weren't in th…

Terrorism doesn't mean "anything that makes someone scared," or else all wars would be acts of terrorism. There isn't a universally agreed upon definition, but generally it refers to targeting non-combatants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism For example, when the Allies tried to assassinate Hitler with a smuggled briefcase bomb during WW2, that wasn't terrorism: that was just regular warfare. Hitler was the le…

I can’t reply to zugzug underneath (is there a maximum comment depth), but it feels pretty obvious that the US President is a very legitimate target in any war with the US. Maybe the most legitimate target.

Good luck trying to get them though.

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