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Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by watwut »

rainonmoon wrote: post #32
hallole wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hugely decisive! Feels more like a policy for idyllic hypotheticals. "Suppose we could ban social media..." well, hey, they actually did it. I'm very interested to see how their socializing evolves in response to such a shock. Do the social behaviors of pre-internet times re-emerge? "Third spaces" reappear overnight? We shall see!

Given that “social media” is in fact not banned and all this does is impact a select (and frankly logically inconsistent) list of services, this seems very unlikely. Children are still free to be groomed and gamble on Roblox and join servers belonging to The Com on Discord. To be clear I don’t think those services should be regulated by this obscene law either but this isn’t going to bring back any kind of halcyon er…

I still prefer my kids to play roblox over being on X or tiktok much.

It is still more ok then most of what any other todays tech provides. No matter how much geeks on HN hate it.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by squigz »

demarq wrote: post #13

If all the kids start pretending to be grownups, they end up escaping all the protections put in place to protect kids in the first place. In football we call this an own goal

I'm fairly confident that's not how it works, but am happy to be proven wrong?

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by deadbolt »

squigz wrote: post #60
emulatedmedia wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isolating children from what? If anything, this will make they spend more time with their friends and family

What about the kids who are bullied and isolated at school? What about those who have an abusive family?

What about the kids who are bullied on social media?

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by spwa4 »

N_Lens wrote: post #8

Quite a decisive move by the Australian government. I don't know if it's a move in the right direction or not but the research clearly shows that around the time social media became mainstream, teens' and preteens' mental health took a nosedive (Especially girls).

Thinking about this this will of course fail. Because teens will do what they did before online: make their own social networks. But by necessity these will be small.

I hope that's what will happen. That this is only really a problem for FANG, for the tech industry and doesn't actually prevent social media.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by deadbolt »

batiudrami wrote: post #37
protocolture wrote: post #31

Its crazy how the AusGov has just tried to turn this into some kind of nationalistic celebration. Passing laws isolating children isnt to be celebrated by lighting up national monuments.

Isolating children? They’re schoolchildren! They see their peers at school every day.

Isolated from ads sold by the social media companies lol

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

NoPicklez wrote: post #21
nacozarina wrote: post #12

this is an egregious violation of their civil rights. the law of unintended consequences looms large.

Like what? Kids not being able to do particular things until they're of age? That's much of an egregious violation of their civil rights.

Kids not being informed about the war crimes of their state, and other states.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by WorldPeas »

hallole wrote: post #15
N_Lens wrote: post #8

Quite a decisive move by the Australian government. I don't know if it's a move in the right direction or not but the research clearly shows that around the time social media became mainstream, teens' and preteens' mental health took a nosedive (Especially girls).

Hugely decisive! Feels more like a policy for idyllic hypotheticals. "Suppose we could ban social media..." well, hey, they actually did it. I'm very interested to see how their socializing evolves in response to such a shock. Do the social behaviors of pre-internet times re-emerge? "Third spaces" reappear overnight? We shall see!

I think one must also re-evaluate how in modern times a parent can be charged (by a perfect stranger) for the crime of neglecting their child when allowing them to rove unrestricted outside (within reason). I've heard of this happening in both the US and Australia, the HOA mindset really needs to die.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by youngNed »

WorldPeas wrote: post #67
hallole wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hugely decisive! Feels more like a policy for idyllic hypotheticals. "Suppose we could ban social media..." well, hey, they actually did it. I'm very interested to see how their socializing evolves in response to such a shock. Do the social behaviors of pre-internet times re-emerge? "Third spaces" reappear overnight? We shall see!

I think one must also re-evaluate how in modern times a parent can be charged (by a perfect stranger) for the crime of neglecting their child when allowing them to rove unrestricted outside (within reason). I've heard of this happening in both the US and Australia, the HOA mindset really needs to die.

These are very very isolated outliers amplified by a media hellbent on ragebait.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by awillowingmind »

squigz wrote: post #60
emulatedmedia wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isolating children from what? If anything, this will make they spend more time with their friends and family

What about the kids who are bullied and isolated at school? What about those who have an abusive family?

Ah yes brilliant. Instead of trying to address these issues at their source let’s just let kids form immaterial connections online and guarantee they never learn how to form any sort of in person communication skills!

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Post by nxor »

N_Lens wrote: post #8

Quite a decisive move by the Australian government. I don't know if it's a move in the right direction or not but the research clearly shows that around the time social media became mainstream, teens' and preteens' mental health took a nosedive (Especially girls).

Not just mental health: ability to concentrate + engagement with people around us.
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