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In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Pigovian taxes WORK, and are in many cases desirable, something lolberts just seem unable to get their heads around.

Of course they work. If the government manipulates the equation to make something unaffordable, the poor can no longer afford it. That’s not the point.

Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do EVs fare in this regard? Brakes are used significantly less, but the additional weight from the batteries chews through tires faster.

Why does everyone immediately pivot to EVs on this subject, instead of (looks around) gargantuan SUVs and trucks everywhere, due to peculiarities of US policies regulating SUVs more leniently than cars on fuel efficiency?

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Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do EVs fare in this regard? Brakes are used significantly less, but the additional weight from the batteries chews through tires faster.

And unfortunately there is some nasty stuff in tires

There never seems to be much discussion on reducing the harm from tire (and I suppose road surface) particulates. Maybe that's the next frontier?

Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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> Particulates issued from tailpipes can aggravate asthma and heart disease and increase the risk of lung cancer and heart attack. Globally, they are a leading risk factor for premature death. Minor nitpick, but tailpipes aren't the primary source of emissions. The study is about PM2.5[0]. which will chiefly be tires and brake pads. Modern gasoline engines are relatively clean, outside of CO2, though diesel engines s…

And besides, even if lung cancer and heart attack may be the most common means of premature death, it does not entail that air pollution is the primary cause of them. I thought that smoking and bad dietary/exercise habits were the main factors. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to know.

Air pollution is pretty clearly correlated with reduced life expectancy, even if you don't directly die from it

Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Not surprising. The real question is how do we measure the opportunity cost of these measures? Is it a net gain? You could, at the extreme, ban all motor vehicles but the opportunity cost would outweigh the benefits.

Try things and ask the people in a year if they like the results, then do the good ones more and the bad ones less.

Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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Pigovian taxes WORK, and are in many cases desirable, something lolberts just seem unable to get their heads around.

Pigouvian*, this is a regressive tax though that is probably unnecessary as the other studies referenced or linked in this thread show.

Re: In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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> Particulates issued from tailpipes can aggravate asthma and heart disease and increase the risk of lung cancer and heart attack. Globally, they are a leading risk factor for premature death. Minor nitpick, but tailpipes aren't the primary source of emissions. The study is about PM2.5[0]. which will chiefly be tires and brake pads. Modern gasoline engines are relatively clean, outside of CO2, though diesel engines s…

This is actually a major nitpick. If this "study" is this sloppy, what else isn't quite true?
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