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Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war. Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

#12

I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war. Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

might is right. /s

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

#13

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Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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“Expected” is not enough. These bombs didn’t go off in active war zone. They went off in public in Lebanon, and maimed and killed civilians.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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Many of the people who had the pagers were doctors, lawyers, bureaucrats...

Maybe I'm wrong, but, I think Hezb0-lla-h is pretty much the "government", especially in southern Lebanon

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

#15

I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war. Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

"It's not a war crime the first time!"

Anyway sadly even if they did start attacking civilians, say Palestinian civilians as a random example, who is going to enforce the penalty for war crimes. These days its seems they're more of a suggestion than a rule of engaging in war.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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That's like planting a bomb in front of a military camp. You might have a target, but in the end you just kill whoever was nearby at that time. In the case of the pager attack, that includes children aged 11 and 12, as well as a nurse.

That's much closer to a terrorist attack than to legal warfare.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

#17

I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war. Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

#18

I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war. Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.

All of the arguments I've seen supporting this attack focus on the idea that it's fine to kill and maim civilians including children as long as you will probably get some combatants. It's a little bit open to interpretation, I guess, and I'm not a legal expert so fine, ok.

But booby trapping mundane daily objects accessible to non-combatants is a clear violation of international law. No real room for leeway or interpretation on that one either.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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There might be some potential legal defense in terms of proportionality of collateral damage but it's so thin here as to be absurd.

Regardless, given the number of war crimes this army has been found guilty of, this is somewhat moot. What's another war crime in the grand scheme of things.

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