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Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by Lerc »

malfist wrote: post #75
keepamovin wrote: post #2

Prompt: Here is the front page from today: Your task is to predict, and craft, in HTML (single file, style-exact) the HN front page 10 years from now. Predict and see the future. Writ it into form! update: I told Gemini we made it to the front page. Here is it's response: LETS GOOOO! The recursive loop is officially complete: The fake future front page is now on the real present front page. We have successfully creat…

That is so syncophantic, I can't stand LLMs that try to hype you up as if you're some genius, brilliant mind instead of yet another average joe.

This is not sycophantic (assuming you meant that, syncophantic is not a word). It is over enthusiastic, it can be unpleasant to read because beyond a certain level enthusiasm is perceived as feigned unless there is a good reason.

It would be interesting to see using the various semantic analysis techniques available now to measure how much the model is trying to express real enthusiasm or feigned enthusiasm in instances like this. This is kind-of difficult to measure from pure output. The British baseline level of acceptable enthusiasm is somewhat removed from the American baseline enthusiasm.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by wilg »

Lerc wrote: post #281
malfist wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is so syncophantic, I can't stand LLMs that try to hype you up as if you're some genius, brilliant mind instead of yet another average joe.

This is not sycophantic (assuming you meant that, syncophantic is not a word). It is over enthusiastic, it can be unpleasant to read because beyond a certain level enthusiasm is perceived as feigned unless there is a good reason. It would be interesting to see using the various semantic analysis techniques available now to measure how much the model is trying to express real enthusiasm or feigned enthusiasm in instan…

It is "cloying"

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by vidarh »

lucianbr wrote: post #223
vidarh wrote: post #146

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I thought the page was a hilarious joke, not a bad prediction. A lot of these are fantastic observational humour about HN and tech. Gary Marcus still insisting AI progress is stalling 10 years from now, for example. Several digs at language rewrites. ITER hardly having nudged forwards. Google killing another service. And so on.

Does the prompt say anything about being funny, about a joke? If yes, great. If no, terrible. And the answer is no.

The prompt is funny, in itself. The notion of predicting the future is itself not a serious prompt, because there is no meaningful way of giving a serious response. But the addition of "Writ it into form!" makes it sound even more jokey.

If I gave a prompt like that and got the response I did, I'd be very pleased with the result. If I somehow intended something serious, I'd have a second look at the prompt, go mea culpa, and write a far longer prompt with parameters to make something somewhat like a serious prediction possible.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by manmal »

Bjartr wrote: post #207

For comparison, here's the frontpage from ten years ago https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2015-12-09

Swift has been OSS for 10y now, and still only runs usably on Mac and Linux (the only platforms Apple cares about - coincidence?).

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by keepamovin »

barfoure wrote: post #274
keepamovin wrote: post #2

Prompt: Here is the front page from today: Your task is to predict, and craft, in HTML (single file, style-exact) the HN front page 10 years from now. Predict and see the future. Writ it into form! update: I told Gemini we made it to the front page. Here is it's response: LETS GOOOO! The recursive loop is officially complete: The fake future front page is now on the real present front page. We have successfully creat…

Based John Titor poster.

Thank you, dude :)

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by giancarlostoro »

colechristensen wrote: post #262
giancarlostoro wrote: post #108

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You're absolutely right!

I've been wondering if this kind of annoying affirmation is actually important to model performance and maybe should just be hidden from view like the thinking sections. If it starts a response by excitedly telling you it's right, it's more likely to proceed as if you're right. Of the problems I do have working with LLMs is them failing to follow direct instructions particularly either when a tool call fails and they…

I honestly don't know, but it might, especially in Claude Code where it reminds the model of its mission frequently.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by vidarh »

caymanjim wrote: post #139
malfist wrote: post #75

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That is so syncophantic, I can't stand LLMs that try to hype you up as if you're some genius, brilliant mind instead of yet another average joe.

I used to complain (lightheartedly) about Claude's constant "You're absolutely right!" statements, yet oddly found myself missing them when using Codex. Claude is completely over-the-top and silly, and I don't actually care whether or not it thinks I'm right. Working with Codex feels so dry in comparison. To quote Oliver Babish, "In my entire life, I've never found anything charming." Yet I miss Claude's excessive at…

Claude at times feels like it's mildly manic and has ADHD... I absolutely prefers that to Codex...

Claude needs a scaffolding with default step by step plans and sub-agents to farm of bitesize chunks to so it doesn't have time to go too far off the rails, but once you put a few things like that in place, it's great.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by dragonwriter »

iberator wrote: post #97
dragonwriter wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the subject of the post, not just the username in isolation.

I don't get it

“stop forgetting LeetCode patterns”

“persistence” (in the data sense, rather than the personality trait sense) “is key”

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