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Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?

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HP Probook or Elitebook models have upgradable ram, SSD, and are generally serviceable. You can usually find the previous generation on ebay for an inexpensive price.

This. The Elitebooks are quite nice, except for the cheap screen options (prone to ghosting).

If there was one perfect laptop manufacturer out there, there wouldn't be a need for competition. I care less about ghosting issues since I'm not using mine for gaming or other tasks where image clarity with visual movement is necessary, and more about flexibility with changes in ram and disk size, since those are things I'll likely upgrade over time. Also, most of the time, my laptop is plugged into a dock using monitors instead of the built-in screen.

I've also looked at and really like Framework, but for the times I am using the screen, I require touch, so that's a non-starter.

Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?

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HP Probook or Elitebook models have upgradable ram, SSD, and are generally serviceable. You can usually find the previous generation on ebay for an inexpensive price.

I've had about 400 Windows HP laptops/200 desktops through my hands running IT for a nonprofit. They are not perfect, but the different models (from cheapo plastic-case 12/13 inch to top-of-the-line metal cased "16 inch desktop replacements" lappies and low to mid-level desktops) have been better built, and more easily serviced, than comparable Lenovo, Dell & Acer models I've had my hands on in the same time. Our new…

I haven't seen quite that many, but my much limited experience aligns with yours. The Elitebook I currently have is my first and I've been quite happy with it so far. Time will tell if it has other issues like battery bloat or dying fans.

MSPs will push whatever hardware and software they can get preferential deals on (and sometimes kickbacks), so its up to the customer to vote with their dollars. The challenge is: does that decision rest with the CTO or the CFO?

Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?

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HP Probook or Elitebook models have upgradable ram, SSD, and are generally serviceable. You can usually find the previous generation on ebay for an inexpensive price.

I scored an "open box" Dell Pro 14 Plus on eBay for about 600USD. It's got two USB-A ports, two USB4 ports, built-in Ethernet, 4G LTE, upgradeable storage, and decent Linux support (on Ubuntu LTS at least). The battery is field-replaceable but the 32GB RAM is soldered. (There are other models with upgradeable RAM.) It's got a middling display (the 2-in-1 display is better) and a somewhat dated Hawk Point SoC, but it'…

Interesting - hadn't heard of that model line from them (but then I spend less time with hardware today than before), and found their 16G model is $669 (Model: PB14255), but non-touch. In looking at the customized version, at least they're not charging stupid money for a touchscreen - $100.75 - BUT going with that custom version means the price now shoots up to $1172.47 !!!

Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?

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I got a Dell XPS for work a couple years ago on someone's recommendation... one of my worst-ever decisions. The touchpad sucks and routinely breaks requiring restarts, constantly having driver issues (and you have to deal with the capital-N Nightmare that is SupportAssist for drivers), graphics card is busted and makes the display driver crash once a month. Power states are completely broken. Laptop will randomly tur…

Unfortunately same about my XPS, looked promising but turned to shit faster than I'd expect

Re: Ask HN: Quality of recent gens of Dell/Lenovo laptops worse than 10 years ago?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I scored an "open box" Dell Pro 14 Plus on eBay for about 600USD. It's got two USB-A ports, two USB4 ports, built-in Ethernet, 4G LTE, upgradeable storage, and decent Linux support (on Ubuntu LTS at least). The battery is field-replaceable but the 32GB RAM is soldered. (There are other models with upgradeable RAM.) It's got a middling display (the 2-in-1 display is better) and a somewhat dated Hawk Point SoC, but it'…

Interesting - hadn't heard of that model line from them (but then I spend less time with hardware today than before), and found their 16G model is $669 (Model: PB14255), but non-touch. In looking at the customized version, at least they're not charging stupid money for a touchscreen - $100.75 - BUT going with that custom version means the price now shoots up to $1172.47 !!!

They just renamed everything... the Pro Plus series is basically Latitude.
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