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>45% of voters would vote for Trump again, today.

What does the orange-utan has to do with this ? The free rein of the CIA and associated atrocities have been the same under every US president.

Which other president directed the rounding up of Americans and non-Americans to put them in a camp?

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This is how people lose credibility.

The articles wants to make you think the box is a 3d confinement reminiscent of the drawing.

From the description it sounds like it is a 4 square foot cage that the person stands in while cuffed.

Yes it’s bad.

No, it’s not like the box mentioned at the CIA Black site.

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This kind of seems to be a combined strategy. I mean this is not old; many of us may still remember Abu Ghraib and so forth. We now have a somewhat comparable situation: build up of enemies. See ICE raids and videos manhunting people. There always are people susceptible to do so (e. g. inflict pain onto others). The strange thing is how some "democracies" do that. Where is the net difference to a dictatorship? This i…

> strange thing is how some "democracies" do that the US is not a democracy. Also, it is not a "repeat of old patterns" but continuation of things that have never been solved.

> the US is not a democracy.

Since when? You probably think that it has been a democracy at some point. And I'm sure the US did use torture at the time you deemed it a democracy.

Hence I don't get your point.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are humans. Humans can commit atrocities. Don't let anger bring you down into that mindset.

They clearly think of anyone they don't like as not human. I am only indulging in their crime. They do what evil people would do.

Thinking that the word is divided into evil and non evil people is not very useful.

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if you say it out who you mean they'll call you a terrorist and lock you up, regardless if you're right. this is why this can't be solved peacefully or via "voting the right people". You essentially have a gulag that is somehow endorsed by all those who are voting either democrat or republican today. And to fix it would mean the current system is being taken down. But this remains unthinkable for most of the deeply propagandized general (US) public.

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This is how people lose credibility. The articles wants to make you think the box is a 3d confinement reminiscent of the drawing. From the description it sounds like it is a 4 square foot cage that the person stands in while cuffed. Yes it’s bad. No, it’s not like the box mentioned at the CIA Black site.

You get in the box and tell me it’s not torture. I’ll wait.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> strange thing is how some "democracies" do that the US is not a democracy. Also, it is not a "repeat of old patterns" but continuation of things that have never been solved.

> the US is not a democracy. Since when? You probably think that it has been a democracy at some point. And I'm sure the US did use torture at the time you deemed it a democracy. Hence I don't get your point.

I never claimed it was a democracy, either today or in the past. I actually said the opposite.

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> The people doing this should tried and executed That won't happen. Lynndie England served 3 years and roams freely in the USA. The death penalty is wrong anyway. > They aren't humans anymore Congratulations. That is what the Nazis said about the Jews. Human rights are indivisible. This is a cornerstone of western civilization.

Neither torture nor genocide is recognized anywhere as a human right. After WWII we held trials.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does the orange-utan has to do with this ? The free rein of the CIA and associated atrocities have been the same under every US president.

Which other president directed the rounding up of Americans and non-Americans to put them in a camp?

- Roosevelt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America...

- van buren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Cass

- Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans

- Bush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

And i must forget a lot of others, but I think you get the gist. "Great again" indeed.

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