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LOGO lives!

I want to preface this by noting that as an adult, I totally understand the intent behind LOGO, its use as an educational tool, and understand its historic place in computer history. But as a pre-teen kid in the early 80s? I hated LOGO! I thought it was a baby language and I wanted to get back to doing cool stuff in BASIC. Ten year old Me thought LOGO was soooo dumb - you couldn't make a video game, so what use was i…

You could peek and poke with LOGO... At least the one I used.

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#52

LOGO lives!

To be fair, turtle graphics is not itself Logo, Logo was originally designed for text manipulation (because all schools had at that time were teletype terminals). Then came the idea of a physical turtle robot, then the graphical turtle when schools got computers with CRT displays. My partner and I do maintain a complete (and extended) Logo interpreter however, so yes it really does live. Somewhat :)

> My partner and I do maintain a complete (and extended) Logo interpreter however, so yes it really does live. Somewhat :)

That's very cool!

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#53

When I was seven I wrote a LOGO program on our school's Apple IIe to tile the (green monochrome) monitor with hexagons. It's all been downhill since.

That’s really cool! In adulthood I’ve learned about Seymour Papert and LOGO but I was never exposed to it when I was young. We did have early 90’s Macs in grade school.

Yeah, it was fun. I had no idea the theory at the time, but Papert et al were definitely on to something.

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#54

When I was seven I wrote a LOGO program on our school's Apple IIe to tile the (green monochrome) monitor with hexagons. It's all been downhill since.

Was this with the little turle as your cursor? Seeing the "older" kids who could manipulate that program/language to make stopmotion movies might have been the moment that set me on the path of "technology enthusiast" for the rest of my life. The scene of the dimmed computer lab with a whole group gathered around someone's monitor to watch the newest creation is forever etched in my memory.

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Writing an infinite "hello world!" loop on an Atari 800XL was my first programming experience... in the mid-2000s.

I mean, I did start in the late 80s...but since I can't reply to the flagged comment I'll do so here.

I still feel pretty good. I'm still squatting 2.5x my bodyweight and not slowing down in the gym yet.

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#57

This is a fun sort of project --- couldn't resist knocking out an implementation for OpenPythonSCAD: https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview/blob/main/tdmt.py https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview/blob/main/threeDmo... (and yes, the full name (3-Dimension Model Turtle) does have the same number of syllables as a certain for letter franchise staring beings named for a certain quartet named after Italian Renaissa…

Three dimensional model turtle doo dah, doo dah.

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#58

Such a nice project!! I made several turtles too, check https://turtletoy.net/user/markknol

Nice collection, lots of variety. For "Fake Hyperbolic Plane..." [1] I can suggest looking up the Method of Apollonius, in order to make the circles all touch without overlapping or gaps.

[1] https://turtletoy.net/turtle/0975488621

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#59

Such a nice project!! I made several turtles too, check https://turtletoy.net/user/markknol

These are great, thanks for sharing. Are there any resources you recommend for this? I have come across the book Turtle Geometry but haven’t read it.

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When I was seven I wrote a LOGO program on our school's Apple IIe to tile the (green monochrome) monitor with hexagons. It's all been downhill since.

Was this with the little turle as your cursor? Seeing the "older" kids who could manipulate that program/language to make stopmotion movies might have been the moment that set me on the path of "technology enthusiast" for the rest of my life. The scene of the dimmed computer lab with a whole group gathered around someone's monitor to watch the newest creation is forever etched in my memory.

It was! I even remember it was Terrapin LOGO - which amazingly seems to still be around. [0]

None of us ever made anything as good as a stop-motion. It didn't even occur to me to do anything that cool. But I was obsessed with geometry and patterns, and benefit from a group of us being allowed up into the middle school to use the computer at lunchtime recess.

When I was older and got official "Enrichment" classes after school I tackled the same pattern and figured out how to do it with a minimum of repeated line segments. I also figured I might as well do triangular and square tilings. But those were boring, as there isn't a repeated edge problem to solve.

[0] https://www.terrapinlogo.com/

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