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I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by bojan »

isoprophlex wrote: post #88

I have a very weird tangential nit to pick: gendering LLMs. I swear I'm not pushing any sort of gender agenda/discussion that can be had anytime anywhere else in the current age, but to me there is something quintessentially a-gendered about the output of a computer program. Calling Claude (or GPT-5 or Gemini or my bash terminal for that matter) a "he" seems absurd to the point of hilarity. In my mind, they've always…

This felt quirky to me as well, possibly because my native language is strictly gendered.

Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by DocTomoe »

I keep wondering ... is this a good benchmark? What is a practical use-case for the skills Claude is supposed to present here? And if the author needs that particular website re-created with pixel-perfect accuracy, woulnd't it me simpler to just to it yourself?

Sure, you can argue this is some sort of modern ACID-Test - but the ACID tests checked for real-world use-cases. This feels more like 'I have this one very specific request, the machine doesn't perfectly fullfill it, so the machine is at fault.'. Complaining from a high pedestal.

I'm more surprised at how close Claude got in its reimagined SpaceJam-site.

Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by DocTomoe »

sqircles wrote: post #99

> The Space Jam website is simple: a single HTML page, absolute positioning for every element... Absolute positioning wasn't available until CSS2 in 1998. This is just a table with crafty use of align, valign, colspan, and rowspan.

Which would also render differently on every machine, based on browser settings, screen sizes, and available fonts.

Like the web was meant to be. An interpreted hypertext format, not a pixel-perfect brochure for marketing execs.

Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by smoghat »

jonplackett wrote: post #94
skrebbel wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ok, so here is an interesting case where Claude was almost good enough, but not quite. You say that as if that’s uncommon.

This should be the strap line for all AI (so far)

That's fair. But I always think of it as an intern I am paying $20 a month for or $200 a month. I would be kind of shocked if they could do everything as well as I'd hoped for that price point. It's fascinating for me and worth the money.

I am lucky that I don't depend on this for work at a corporation. I'd be pulling my hair out if some boss said "You are going to be doing 8 times as much work using our corporate AI from now on."

Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by tehjoker »

Hmm you note that the problem is the LLM doesn’t have enough image context, but then zoom the image more?

Why not downscale the image and feed it as a second input so that entire planets fit into a patch and instruct it to use the doensampled image for coarse coordinate estimation

Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

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Post by DocTomoe »

isoprophlex wrote: post #88

I have a very weird tangential nit to pick: gendering LLMs. I swear I'm not pushing any sort of gender agenda/discussion that can be had anytime anywhere else in the current age, but to me there is something quintessentially a-gendered about the output of a computer program. Calling Claude (or GPT-5 or Gemini or my bash terminal for that matter) a "he" seems absurd to the point of hilarity. In my mind, they've always…

Hm, Claude is a common male surname, especially in Europe. That plays into it. Also many people - including me - have personalised their AI chats, have given it names, even something resembling a personality (it's easy with prefix prompts). Why others do it, who knows, I do it because I find it a lot less frustrating when ChatGPT fucks up when it pretends to be a young adult female klutz.
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