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How airbnb lost me as a customer

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How airbnb lost me as a customer

#1
I don't have a blog where this story would be appropriate, but since I know airbnb founders/investors read HN, I figure my story might be valuable to them. This is how my first experience with airbnb is also going to be my last.

I recently rented out my apartment for a 2 week stay. With my nearly $3,000 payment being held by airbnb, I received an email asking me to "send in a scanned copy of your government issued ID and a copy of a utility bill". No form to do so, just the vague "send". I'm not really comfortable sending as much personal info as my drivers license contains (height, weight, eye color, DL number, photo) especially over unencrypted email, and when this requirement wasn't mentioned before listing my space.

Here is where they lose me as a customer though- I snapped a photo of a utility bill and responded to their email. Two days go by, my payment is still 'pending' now several days after the guest has arrived. I send a second email inquiring if the photo was ok (I don't have a scanner handy) and why they still haven't paid me, and get no response. More days go by with airbnb holding my payment, and I try to use their live chat. Live chat fails silently in firefox (clicking the button does nothing). I try in chrome and it tells me everyone is busy. Try again later and it opens a window... then 30 seconds later tells me everyone is busy and to email my request.

Finally, now 9 days after my guest arrived, I receive another email from airbnb which ignores all my previous messages and tells me to once again "send" them scans of gov't id and utility bill. Apparently my only option to get them to release my funds is to send highly personal information over unencrypted email, a requirement which was never made clear when I made my listing.

Airbnb seems like a great idea with an ideal set of founders and backers, but unexpected requirements and terrible customer support have turned me off their site.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#2
Are you really worried that they'll have your height and eye color?

You've already let a "stranger" into your house, but these details to too sacred?

Just take photos off all and black out any info you don't think is appropriate.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#3
post #2

Are you really worried that they'll have your height and eye color? You've already let a "stranger" into your house, but these details to too sacred? Just take photos off all and black out any info you don't think is appropriate.

It's more the principle of requiring additional information after a reservation has been booked instead of being up-front about it, and sending it over unencrypted email.

The biggest issue is that I responded to their original email within 24 hours, but have now waited 10 days without resolution or any feedback.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#4
You're essentially acting as a hotel business. I'm not sure you can do that with the level of anonymity you require to a legal corp like airbnb to remain legit. You may have unreasonable expectations. Try something even more underground next time I guess. There probably isn't anything they can do.

But yeah, I suppose listing it more clearly would have been nice :) (and better communication, something most tech startups need to learn to scale)

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#5
If anything, I'm surprised they allowed you to rent out your place without that verification in hand. There is enough possible legal/liability quandaries around the idea of AirBnB that is seems risky to sanction the rental of a place without confirmation of the owner's identity.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#8
I'm a little shocked that you overcame all of the other concerns of using AirBNB but balked at a failed firefox plugin. I'm sure there's a logical explanation and probably a little bit of mismanagement on behalf of AirBNB, but that's something that can be corrected.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#9
I think you were right to avoid sending that info because that's an identity thief's gold mine. On the other hand, I wonder how many times airbnb has been scammed. Hopefully this is some kind of knee-jerk reaction to problems they are having and not just an unprovoked screw up.

Re: How airbnb lost me as a customer

#10
It's amazing what some companies ask you to send via email. The inherent trust people put in email systems is honestly scary. envex seems not worried if someone has their eye color or height. I can promise you every bit of information someone can obtain on you IS useful.

Dear AirBnB,

Sending utility bills and drivers licenses over email is NOT appropriate!!!

This makes me want to pentest AirBnB and find their vulnerabilities before someone evil does....

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