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Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Re: Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Post by jasonvorhe »

fifilura wrote: post #97
anonym29 wrote: post #63

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Housing is cheap in Somalia too. Freedom is not prices of rent - it’s whether the police can arrest you for criticizing the government.

You're also describing Germany and most of Europe will follow suit. Political elites wanting war will make it so that being against the government will be punishable by law. See UK, see Germany where posts on social media will get you visits by police.

Everything the media has been hammering Russia for is being setup right here in Europe.

Re: Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Post by jasonvorhe »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #113
appreciatorBus wrote: post #17

> "We don't want to spend half a year of our lives locked up in barracks, being trained in drill and obedience and learning to kill," the organisers of the protests wrote in a statement posted on social media. "War offers no prospects for the future and destroys our livelihoods." Is the idea that it’s better for your livelihood to just start learning how speak Russian now?

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Re: Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #139
lawn wrote: post #115

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Learning to speak Russian, and to live with the massive amount of corruption, prosecution, genocide, and much lower quality of life. Assuming you survive the initial wave of plunder, rape and murder of course.

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Do you think Russians have a better quality of life than Germans?

Re: Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Post by K0balt »

anonym29 wrote: post #84
crooked-v wrote: post #83

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Russia, because just by existing there as a male in a certain age bracket you have a realistic chance of being tasered and beaten until you sign "voluntary" military service papers so that they can send you to die on the front lines of a war of conquest ( https://theins.ru/en/society/277452 ).

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You seem to be forgetting that Russia is clearly the aggressor, and Ukraine clearly the defender. None of this would be happening if Russia simply abided by international law and common decency.

It’s simple. Don’t invade your neighbors.

While it’s all reprehensible, I’ll give a pass to horrific recruitment practices in a nation fighting for its survival. Not so much to a nation working to commit genocide on their neighbor in an adventuristic invasion.

I’d be saying the same thing about Ukraine if they had been the ones to invade Russia. Russia chose to be the bully here. This “both sides” rhetoric is just gaslighting and victim blaming BS.

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Post by jeffrallen »

Balgair wrote: post #79
nothercastle wrote: post #21

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When it comes to being drone operators or targets it’s probably a negligible difference

Actually you make a good point here. Women have better reaction times then men, so female drone operators, all else being equal, may be better at the job.

In my village's shooting club the women shoot just as well at the men, and quite a bit more consistently as well.

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Post by lawn »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #139
lawn wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learning to speak Russian, and to live with the massive amount of corruption, prosecution, genocide, and much lower quality of life. Assuming you survive the initial wave of plunder, rape and murder of course.

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So you'd rather read Russian propaganda?

Weird choice.

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Post by whatevaa »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #113
appreciatorBus wrote: post #17

> "We don't want to spend half a year of our lives locked up in barracks, being trained in drill and obedience and learning to kill," the organisers of the protests wrote in a statement posted on social media. "War offers no prospects for the future and destroys our livelihoods." Is the idea that it’s better for your livelihood to just start learning how speak Russian now?

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Hi, Russian propaganda.

Re: Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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Post by jasonvorhe »

lawn wrote: post #147
jasonvorhe wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So you'd rather read Russian propaganda? Weird choice.

So in your experience there is only one or the other and there's no room for nuance and neutral assessments of both positions?

Guess who has been propagandized.

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