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Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by no_wizard »

doublextremevil wrote: post #6

the whole pc laptop industry really is an embarrassment right now. It has been 5 years since the M1 Macbook release, and there is no real equivalent. I'm on a thinkpad x9, which might be the closest I've seen, but the cpu performance just isn't as good.

It has always been an embarrassment.

Vizio made a good laptop once and then they just existed the computer industry. They had a vision of high quality approachable laptops, desktops and pro platforms and their first gen was a good attempt, but they just didn’t follow on.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by mschuster91 »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #9

I don’t know. Just run Linux in a VM on macOS. What exactly is Apple not permitting you to do? Asahi would have 100x more adoption if it was about better virtualization of Linux on macOS. It would be a DIFFERENT product and I guess that’s the point, right?

> Just run Linux in a VM on macOS. What exactly is Apple not permitting you to do?

High performance GPU for VMs, for starters. And the amount of crap that even a bare-bones macOS needs to load (and that consequently hog resources like RAM and CPU time) is a goddamn joke.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by forgetfulness »

jph wrote: post #5

Do you know about Framework? https://frame.work/

The author wants to buy a whole new computer every year or two max, instead of upgrading components

That’s an impressive, so to speak, level of consumerism, reminds me of a self-professed minimalist that made the rounds here years ago, he practiced detachment from worldly possessions by throwing away his clothes after use and buying new ones, instead of washing them

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by krick »

I wonder why ThinkPads are not mentioned. It's not like I recommend them (I mean, I use one, but it's not like I've tried most laptops out there, so who I am to judge), but I was under the impression it's still a de-facto Linux laptop standard.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by adalacelove »

mschuster91 wrote: post #12
doctorpangloss wrote: post #9

I don’t know. Just run Linux in a VM on macOS. What exactly is Apple not permitting you to do? Asahi would have 100x more adoption if it was about better virtualization of Linux on macOS. It would be a DIFFERENT product and I guess that’s the point, right?

> Just run Linux in a VM on macOS. What exactly is Apple not permitting you to do? High performance GPU for VMs, for starters. And the amount of crap that even a bare-bones macOS needs to load (and that consequently hog resources like RAM and CPU time) is a goddamn joke.

You cannot uninstall Apple Music. That alone is alienating.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by krick »

SilverElfin wrote: post #2

The bit about HP’s naming scheme is painfully true, about many companies. Utterly dumb marketing strategies.

I feel the same way, but I wouldn't be bold enough to call it dumb. I mean, I assume they know what they are doing. This is very inconvenient for me, as a buyer, but I suppose most companies just aren't Apple, so they throw at us a lot of various stuff hoping that something sticks. And, for that matter, Apple's product line gets more diversified each year too. now it's Air, and Pro, and Max, so I wouldn't bet it won't be G1 Ultra F12b in 10 more years too.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by perching_aix »

This is a refreshing take in some ways. I'm beyond tired of the usual rose-tinted attitudes towards customizability and after-engineered things.

It was a bit disappointing to see the cold shower not reach the thermals situation however, despite the heavy emphasis on performant parts. Apple's offerings are phone-like, they let them saturate then throttle. The alternative is the ugly gamer laptops with their jet engines. Not sure I can wholeheartedly prefer either.

Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

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Post by MarsIronPI »

All I want is a thinner Thinkpad X220 but with upped specs and newer ports. Framework-style upgradable motherboard would be nice but optional. The X220 already has a perfect keyboard, a mousing system that doesn't suck (sorry, I've never been happy with a trackpad: they feel too imprecise), a beautiful form factor for a laptop (if I want a laptop, I want it to be 12-14in for easiest portability), it's practically indestructible and has an array of ports that makes me wonder how people manage with just 3 USB-C ports. Maybe this is just me though.
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