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Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by coryrc »

throwaway290 wrote: post #124
coryrc wrote: post #110

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I'm saying the vast majority of people who support Putin are idiots, just like the vast majority of people who support Trump are idiots, and the religious rural fundies of Iran are mostly idiots. There's a lot of idiots out there and they don't like to think. It causes them pain to think hard. So they like people who tell them simple lies. Others are immoral or evil smart people. Unless you're working to undermine yo…

idiot by definition is abnormal. if there is more idiots than non idiots then you have a wrong understanding of idiot. if almost everybody except you is an idiot then look in the mirror. americans voted for trump because they are tired of democrats looking down on them. in other words, people with your attitude are to blame. until you seriously start trying to understand people and why they do stuff (it is not becaus…

> idiot by definition is abnormal

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/idiot "1 Informal., an utterly foolish or senseless person." Nope, no abnormality needed.

There was (and still is in some places) a lot of lead poisoning. That more people are dumber than their genetics would otherwise dictate doesn't make them not idiots in my obviously-informal ranting.

> americans voted for trump because they are tired of democrats looking down on them.

Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

platevoltage wrote: post #150
SanjayMehta wrote: post #138

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They moved on to Instagram and X. I can't tell the difference between CNN and Fox. They're all liars.

They are all liars, but if you can't tell the difference, you aren't paying attention.

If they're both lying, how does it matter if they are different lies?

No, I don't pay attention to US media as a source of real news. It's just fiction, pandering to two different audiences.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

mopsi wrote: post #148
SanjayMehta wrote: post #146

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Eastern Europe collaborated with the Nazis to attack the USSR. You may not know your own history but I do. Case in point: The Ukraine (Stepan Bandera) and Poland. Look it up.

The USSR had starved millions of Ukrainians to death before the Nazis even rose to power. Mirrors the British hunger games in India. If you want to excuse and trivialize the suffering caused by Russians in Eastern Europe, then by the same token you trivialize the suffering of Indians under British rule. All the same excuses apply: some Bandera-Ramachandran surely conspired against the British and therefore the Bengal…

I've read both version of the Holodomor or whatever it's called. I put it down to communist incompetence, Mao was no different than Stalin in this regard.

As for the famines in India, the war criminal Churchill deliberately routed grains to feed his armies during world war 2. Prior to that, it was British policy to trigger famines, not incompetence.

During the Irish famine, again under British rule, the latter were exporting grains and other produce to England. It was not incompetence but malice.

Who is Ramachandran?

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by NavinF »

Atlas667 wrote: post #44
mk89 wrote: post #38

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The luxury of the West in 1 sentence. Have fun telling that to yourself when a random idiot that 30% of people voted for has power of life and death over you and your family.

As if you have a say other than "that guy" or "that other guy". The wealthy already fund politicians' careers, they fund judges, they fund campaigns. The wealthy already run the country. They fund both parties as a tactic. The parties are just "good cop/bad cop".

> The wealthy already run the country

Dude this is a programming forum. Aren't you "The wealthy"?

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

cosmicgadget wrote: post #133
SanjayMehta wrote: post #118

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What Russian war crimes? While the US commits nothing but war crimes.

You can be anti-west without being a Putin apologist.

Also, better to be a "Putin apologist" than a liar - like most Western politicians.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by mopsi »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #153
mopsi wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The USSR had starved millions of Ukrainians to death before the Nazis even rose to power. Mirrors the British hunger games in India. If you want to excuse and trivialize the suffering caused by Russians in Eastern Europe, then by the same token you trivialize the suffering of Indians under British rule. All the same excuses apply: some Bandera-Ramachandran surely conspired against the British and therefore the Bengal…

I've read both version of the Holodomor or whatever it's called. I put it down to communist incompetence, Mao was no different than Stalin in this regard. As for the famines in India, the war criminal Churchill deliberately routed grains to feed his armies during world war 2. Prior to that, it was British policy to trigger famines, not incompetence. During the Irish famine, again under British rule, the latter were e…

The USSR was also exporting grains as their own people were starving.

Churchill said that the Indian famines were the fault of Indians for "breeding like rabbits" and Stalin said that the Holodomor was the fault of Ukrainians for being "kulak saboteurs". The same dismissive and inhumane attitude shines through. They knew what was happening, they knew that they had the means to stop it, and they chose not to use them.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by throwaway290 »

coryrc wrote: post #151
throwaway290 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

idiot by definition is abnormal. if there is more idiots than non idiots then you have a wrong understanding of idiot. if almost everybody except you is an idiot then look in the mirror. americans voted for trump because they are tired of democrats looking down on them. in other words, people with your attitude are to blame. until you seriously start trying to understand people and why they do stuff (it is not becaus…

> idiot by definition is abnormal https://www.dictionary.com/browse/idiot "1 Informal., an utterly foolish or senseless person." Nope, no abnormality needed. There was (and still is in some places) a lot of lead poisoning. That more people are dumber than their genetics would otherwise dictate doesn't make them not idiots in my obviously-informal ranting. > americans voted for trump because they are tired of democrat…

Nope, still the same. If everyone else is "foolish and senseless" from your personal view then that's baseline, sorry to inform you

an american wrote a book about germans? why do I want to read it? but thanks for reminding me, as far as I know it was similar when hitler came to power, weimar was falling apart and people felt disrespected due to reparations and nazi preyed on that.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

throwaway290 wrote: post #143
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #136

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> Now imagine living not so close to "center" (the mostly white west of the country) You seem to have a very limited understanding of Russia. First, nobody in Russia ever thinks of its population in racial terms like 'white'. At most, there are ethnic terms like 'russians', 'caucasians' [0], 'tatars', 'yakuts', etc. -- there aren't even any genuine Asians here but the students from China. And no, thanks to the soviet…

I think you are living in a different Russia. There is a good reason to use the term "white" and that is because non-whites (you know what I mean) are discriminated. I have various stories but I won't go in detail. I don't blame you, I didn't really think about it in that way for most of my life. And if you talk to more normal people you may find out that it's not just force, many people follow "party line" because t…

You repeat this mantra 'Control of information is a magical thing', but it doesn't become true just because you repeat it. USSR controlled the information far more tightly, yet, nobody believed the government and laughed at them -- I'm old enough to remember that. See, propaganda has a hard time competing with an empty fridge and empty stomach, and in the end, empty stomach prevails. People see quite clearly that living in Russia becomes harder every day, and of course they link it to the unchangeable leadership of the country. After 25 years, people are simply tired of Putin, so any claims that he has 80% approval rating are simply laughable.

Regarding your other point, no, 'Non-whites' are not really discriminated. In fact, Russians themselves are the most underrepresented ethnic group in all levels of power in Russia -- and it always has been that way. It was so in Russian Empire, in Soviet Union, and stays true in Putin's Russia as well. What you're referring to is the cargo-cult practice by some ppl who try to mimic modern Western political tactics. Many have noticed that claimed victimhood is beneficial in the modern-day West, so they try to emulate that by pretending to be a victim of some oppression -- that's where your stories originate from.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

mopsi wrote: post #156
SanjayMehta wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read both version of the Holodomor or whatever it's called. I put it down to communist incompetence, Mao was no different than Stalin in this regard. As for the famines in India, the war criminal Churchill deliberately routed grains to feed his armies during world war 2. Prior to that, it was British policy to trigger famines, not incompetence. During the Irish famine, again under British rule, the latter were e…

The USSR was also exporting grains as their own people were starving. Churchill said that the Indian famines were the fault of Indians for "breeding like rabbits" and Stalin said that the Holodomor was the fault of Ukrainians for being "kulak saboteurs". The same dismissive and inhumane attitude shines through. They knew what was happening, they knew that they had the means to stop it, and they chose not to use them.

Churchill was a shameless genocidal racist.

While he was saying that, he was exporting grain to feed his armies.

I'm glad to see that you view the two - Churchill and Stalin - as equally evil.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by throwaway290 »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #158
throwaway290 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are living in a different Russia. There is a good reason to use the term "white" and that is because non-whites (you know what I mean) are discriminated. I have various stories but I won't go in detail. I don't blame you, I didn't really think about it in that way for most of my life. And if you talk to more normal people you may find out that it's not just force, many people follow "party line" because t…

You repeat this mantra 'Control of information is a magical thing', but it doesn't become true just because you repeat it. USSR controlled the information far more tightly, yet, nobody believed the government and laughed at them -- I'm old enough to remember that. See, propaganda has a hard time competing with an empty fridge and empty stomach, and in the end, empty stomach prevails. People see quite clearly that liv…

> USSR controlled the information far more tightly

Not at the end. Also back then US had USAID

> Regarding your other point, no, 'Non-whites' are not really discriminated

I think you are not qualified to say that. Talk to more yakuts who live in the "center". I'm not basing my words on nothing.

> well. What you're referring to is the cargo-cult practice by some ppl who try to mimic modern Western political tactics

No I don't. This is based on real life data. you are sheltered from it. Good for you.

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