I mean, we already had PRISM, why is anyone acting like this is a big deal?
Because prism is a big deal too.
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#192I’m curious; what database are they using? Or does Flock allow queries to their database?
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
tptacek writes on here sometimes about their activity in local politics. This perspective (from my reading) is that it has a lot of strong support that is difficult to oppose, not that we should give up. Read "give it a year or two" as "give it a year or two of things going as they are".
He also lives in a "nice" suburb of Chicago IIRC I strongly suspect a neighborhood in Chicago composed of the kind of demographics the "nice" suburb's residents are worried about would have a very different take on the issue. And by "strongly suspect" I mean "know because I live in that kind of neighborhood in a different city in a different state".
It's genuinely funny how wrong you are about this, or about what my intersection with Flock is. Go on, keep extrapolating!
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#194Besides the obvious privacy concern: at the very least in my state (Illinois), it's not lawful for public bodies to disclose the license plate numbers read from ALPR cameras, so this data set is necessarily incomplete. But, give it a year or two, and you can replace this whole website with a black background and 72 point white bold text "YES".
You're right that the dataset is incomplete, but it contains searches done by police, not plates read by Flock. The search logs are public record even when alpr data is not; quite a few come from IL.
I have no doubt that local agencies are screwing up the law, which is very new, but in Illinois "ALPR information" means information gathered by an ALPR or created from the analysis of data generated by an ALPR (everything after the quotation marks is a straight excerpt of the statute), and is confidential.
Do not get me started on small public bodies screwing up FOIA.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
tptacek writes on here sometimes about their activity in local politics. This perspective (from my reading) is that it has a lot of strong support that is difficult to oppose, not that we should give up. Read "give it a year or two" as "give it a year or two of things going as they are".
He also lives in a "nice" suburb of Chicago IIRC I strongly suspect a neighborhood in Chicago composed of the kind of demographics the "nice" suburb's residents are worried about would have a very different take on the issue. And by "strongly suspect" I mean "know because I live in that kind of neighborhood in a different city in a different state".
> strongly suspect a neighborhood in Chicago composed of the kind of demographics the "nice" suburb's residents are worried about would have a very different take on the issue
I live in Jackson Hole. None of my neighbours knew what these were. They’re getting taken out.
Don’t presume what folks are worried about without asking them.
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#196Cool website, gave it a go. I am not a general advocate of license plate tracking but believe it’s a double edge sword. A former vehicle was stolen and recovered twice - likely due to tracking technology.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, I agree. My point is that the FOIA laws of many states forbid disclosing the data this web page purports to surface.
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Really? Me of all people? What about my Slovak ethnic identity do you think so attunes me to the concerns you're bringing?
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that the state with license plates that say "live free or die?" Unless, of course, you have a moral objection to that statement, cf. Wooley v. Maynard.
I'm sure that's their state license plate motto regardless of your moral objection
In Wooley v. Maynard SCOTUS held that NH could not require it's citizens to use a license plate displaying the state motto.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
He also lives in a "nice" suburb of Chicago IIRC I strongly suspect a neighborhood in Chicago composed of the kind of demographics the "nice" suburb's residents are worried about would have a very different take on the issue. And by "strongly suspect" I mean "know because I live in that kind of neighborhood in a different city in a different state".
It's genuinely funny how wrong you are about this, or about what my intersection with Flock is. Go on, keep extrapolating!
I’m pretty confused by the innuendo in the posters comment to even get what they are saying, but I can report from the south side of chicago that surveillance cameras are largely popular across demographics.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's genuinely funny how wrong you are about this, or about what my intersection with Flock is. Go on, keep extrapolating!
I’m pretty confused by the innuendo in the posters comment to even get what they are saying, but I can report from the south side of chicago that surveillance cameras are largely popular across demographics.
He's suggesting that Oak Park is supportive of Flock cameras because we're afraid of Black folks.