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Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by analogpixel »

supportengineer wrote: post #158

I believe that the full weight of the nations resources should come into play whenever there are missing or abducted people. CIA, NSA, satellites, all of it. I can’t fathom while we don’t do that already. But absent of that, Flock is the next best thing. Mainly because it reduces the friction to get this information in the hands of local law-enforcement officers. I have zero tolerance for crimes against children and…

You guys really need to come up with at least ONE other reason to push every single policy besides "think of the children"; Just one to break it up a bit.

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Post by ecb_penguin »

edot wrote: post #93
7e wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have no right to privacy in public, at least in the US.

But don’t I have a right to not get stalked?

Yes of course you do. If you're being stalked, contact your local police department.

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Post by airstrike »

iso1631 wrote: post #92
ifh-hn wrote: post #59

Since the page is currently down and I have no idea what flocked means in the context of license plates, can I assume this is US specific?

ANPR cameras which the rest of the world (and apparently America) have had for decades have recently become big news in America, I believe because they're now being used for immigration purposes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number-plate_recogni... I'm not sure why these are so bad but generally everyone loves things like Ring cameras which do the same thing but with people rather than vehicles. I suspect…

Unless I'm missing something, Ring cameras film people at my doorstep and are for my personal use, so dont know how they're similar at all even if you don't trust Amazon

Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by lillecarl »

analogpixel wrote: post #161
supportengineer wrote: post #158

I believe that the full weight of the nations resources should come into play whenever there are missing or abducted people. CIA, NSA, satellites, all of it. I can’t fathom while we don’t do that already. But absent of that, Flock is the next best thing. Mainly because it reduces the friction to get this information in the hands of local law-enforcement officers. I have zero tolerance for crimes against children and…

You guys really need to come up with at least ONE other reason to push every single policy besides "think of the children"; Just one to break it up a bit.

But think of the children!!?

Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by DonHopkins »

DivingForGold wrote: post #141

A met a guy once whom drives a PU truck, he lowers the tailgate and places an oversized piece of plywood in the bed as an excuse, he also places an opaque plastic cover over his front lic plate, which has been raised to a $300 fine in Texas, if caught. He now intends to place a series of bright strobe lights around his front plate to "bleach out" the sensors of these spy cameras.

Does he drive a hotdog shaped car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfAf8oHrMo

Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by supportengineer »

analogpixel wrote: post #161
supportengineer wrote: post #158

I believe that the full weight of the nations resources should come into play whenever there are missing or abducted people. CIA, NSA, satellites, all of it. I can’t fathom while we don’t do that already. But absent of that, Flock is the next best thing. Mainly because it reduces the friction to get this information in the hands of local law-enforcement officers. I have zero tolerance for crimes against children and…

You guys really need to come up with at least ONE other reason to push every single policy besides "think of the children"; Just one to break it up a bit.

Well, let me ask you this. What is your expectation from society if you or your family is personally affected?

Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by Workaccount2 »

iso1631 wrote: post #151
Workaccount2 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans (the general public) are a lot more weary of government surveillance than other developed nations. Its one thing that you can get a lot of liberals and conservative to agree on. Unlike ring cameras which people voluntarily install and the government needs a warrant to access, flock cameras are pretty much exclusively for the government to actively monitor citizens without any court oversight.

People install ring cameras which record me walking past. Those cameras then push the data to private companies for processing, and are made available to police on a simple request. ANPR has been a thing for 30 years. Is America just slow on the uptake? Even then it looks like they've been in use for a long time there.

>and are made available to police on a simple request.

That's a "santa claus for adults" rumor.

Ring only complies with requests that they are legally obligated to. Otherwise users need to voluntarily share the footage, which more often than not they do.

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Post by dehrmann »

sp332 wrote: post #154
tptacek wrote: post #10

Besides the obvious privacy concern: at the very least in my state (Illinois), it's not lawful for public bodies to disclose the license plate numbers read from ALPR cameras, so this data set is necessarily incomplete. But, give it a year or two, and you can replace this whole website with a black background and 72 point white bold text "YES".

In New Hampshire, we banned both public and private ALPRs. You can see on the map that the only ones are at toll booths. Those got explicit exemptions in the law.

Isn't that the state with license plates that say "live free or die?" Unless, of course, you have a moral objection to that statement, cf. Wooley v. Maynard.

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Post by dehrmann »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #11
tptacek wrote: post #10

Besides the obvious privacy concern: at the very least in my state (Illinois), it's not lawful for public bodies to disclose the license plate numbers read from ALPR cameras, so this data set is necessarily incomplete. But, give it a year or two, and you can replace this whole website with a black background and 72 point white bold text "YES".

Flock is a private company, right. That's the whole schtick. Like, Flock can retain records indefinitely for example, they may sell those records to the government but they're a private party.

Would they be subject to CCPA, then?

Re: Have I been Flocked? – Check if your license plate is being watched

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Post by potato3732842 »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #145
diydsp wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rule 1. Do not comply in advance. Do not accept it as inevitable. Do not give away your power without friction.

tptacek writes on here sometimes about their activity in local politics. This perspective (from my reading) is that it has a lot of strong support that is difficult to oppose, not that we should give up. Read "give it a year or two" as "give it a year or two of things going as they are".

He also lives in a "nice" suburb of Chicago IIRC

I strongly suspect a neighborhood in Chicago composed of the kind of demographics the "nice" suburb's residents are worried about would have a very different take on the issue.

And by "strongly suspect" I mean "know because I live in that kind of neighborhood in a different city in a different state".

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