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Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by stego-tech »

bgwalter wrote: post #30
stego-tech wrote: post #18

The document is paints a super impressive picture, but the core constraint of “network connection to Google required so we can harvest your data” is still a big showstopper for me (and all cloud-based AI tooling, really). I’d be curious to see how well something like this can be distilled down for isolated acceleration on SBCs or consumer kit, because that’s where the billions to be made reside (factories, remote sit…

Arpanet was supposed to be decentralized. Now everyone wants to centralize everything so in a war it is sufficient to strike 100 data centers and the whole tethered economy collapses. That is called progress. EDIT: You can downvote the truth but still no one wants your "AI" slop.

Ah, the fond memories of telnetting to NCSA to upload the raw HTML of my first website, written on an OG Macintosh computer and ported via floppy to a PowerMac for network connectivity.

Simple, elegant. I do miss those days.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by minimaxir »

brokensegue wrote: post #29
siva7 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference? I thought the vision ai component of gemini 3 is called nano banana?

i assumed nano banana was just a tool that gemini 3 used though i don't know

Gemini 3 Pro's text encoder powers Nano Banana Pro, but it has its own image decoding model that decodes the generated image tokens into an actual image, which appears to be the more pertinent issue in this case.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by knollimar »

I do some electrical drafting work for construction and throw basic tasks at LLMs.

I gave it a shitty harness and it almost 1 shotted laying out outlets in a room based on a shitty pdf. I think if I gave it better control it could do a huge portion of my coworkers jobs very soon

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by ed »

simonw wrote: post #2

In case the article author sees this, the "HTML transcription" link is broken - it goes to https://aistudio-preprod.corp.google.com/prompts/1GUEWbLIlpX... which is a Google-employee-only URL.

Same with "See prompt in Google AI Studio" which links to an unpublished prompt in AI Studio.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by hodder »

minimaxir wrote: post #28
hodder wrote: post #26

"Gemini 3 Pro represents a generational leap from simple recognition to true visual and spatial reasoning." Prompt: "wine glass full to the brim" Image generated: 2/3 full wine glass. True visual and spatial reasoning denied.

Gemini 3 Pro is not Nano Banana Pro, and the image generation/model that decodes the generated image tokens may not be as robust. The thinking step of Nano Banana Pro can refine some lateral steps (i.e. the errors in the homework correction and where they are spatially in the image) but it isn't perfect and can encounter some of the typical pitfalls. It's a lot better than Nano Banana base, though.

As a consumer I typed this into "Gemini". The behind the scenes model selection just adds confusion.

If "AI" trust is the big barrier for widespread adoption to these products, Alphabet soup isn't the solution (pun intended).

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by oklahomasports »

stego-tech wrote: post #18

The document is paints a super impressive picture, but the core constraint of “network connection to Google required so we can harvest your data” is still a big showstopper for me (and all cloud-based AI tooling, really). I’d be curious to see how well something like this can be distilled down for isolated acceleration on SBCs or consumer kit, because that’s where the billions to be made reside (factories, remote sit…

People with your concerns probably make up 1% of the market if that. Also I don’t upload stuff I’m worried about Google seeing. I wonder if they will allows special plans for corporations

Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by hklrekeclhkle »

agentifysh wrote: post #11

im realizing how much of a bottleneck vision models are im just a glorified speedreadin' promptin' QA at this point with codex once it replaces the QA layer its truly over for software dev jobs future would be a software genie where on aistudio you type: "go make counterstrike 1.6 clone, here is $500, you have two hours" edit: saw the Screenspot benchmark and holy ** this is an insane jump!!! 11% to 71% even beating…

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Re: Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI

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Post by spchampion2 »

hodder wrote: post #26

"Gemini 3 Pro represents a generational leap from simple recognition to true visual and spatial reasoning." Prompt: "wine glass full to the brim" Image generated: 2/3 full wine glass. True visual and spatial reasoning denied.

I actually did this prompt and found that it worked with a single nudge on a followup prompt. My first shot got me a wine glass that was almost full but not quite. I told it I wanted it full to the top - another drop would overflow. The second shot was perfectly full.
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