Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

Post by cpncrunch » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 6:52 PM UTC

james2doyle wrote: post #150

cpncrunch wrote: post #138

I've noticed that in recent months, even apart from these outages, cloudflare has been contributing to a general degradation and shittification of the internet. I'm seeing a lot more "prove you're human", "checking to make sure you're human", and there is normally at the very least a delay of a few seconds before the site loads. I don't think this is really helping the site owners. I suspect it's mainly about AI exto…

You call it extortion of the AI companies, but isn’t stealing/crawling/hammering a site to scrape their content to resell just as nefarious? I would say Cloudflare is giving these site owners an option to protect their content and as a byproduct, reduce their own costs of subsidizing their thieves. They can choose to turn off the crawl protection. If they aren't, that tells you that they want it, doesn’t it?

Post by autoexec » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 6:52 PM UTC

vlovich123 wrote: post #171

paradite wrote: post #31

The deployment pattern from Cloudflare looks insane to me. I've worked at one of the top fintech firms, whenever we do a config change or deployment, we are supposed to have rollback plan ready and monitor key dashboards for 15-30 minutes. The dashboards need to be prepared beforehand on systems and key business metrics that would be affected by the deployment and reviewed by teammates. I've never seen a downtime lon…

That is also true at Cloudflare for what it’s worth. However, the company is so big that there’s so many different products all shipping at the same time it can be hard to correlate it to your release, especially since there’s a 5 min lag (if I recall correctly) in the monitoring dashboards to get all the telemetry from thousands of servers worldwide. Comparing the difficulty of running the world’s internet traffic w…

Post by dznodes » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 6:55 PM UTC

Post by vlovich123 » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

autoexec wrote: post #213

vlovich123 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is also true at Cloudflare for what it’s worth. However, the company is so big that there’s so many different products all shipping at the same time it can be hard to correlate it to your release, especially since there’s a 5 min lag (if I recall correctly) in the monitoring dashboards to get all the telemetry from thousands of servers worldwide. Comparing the difficulty of running the world’s internet traffic w…

> However, the company is so big that there’s so many different products all shipping at the same time it can be hard to correlate it to your release This kind of thing would be more understandable for a company without hundreds of billions of dollars, and for one that hasn't centralized so much of the internet. If a company has grown too large and complex to be well managed and effective and it's starting to look li…

Post by vlovich123 » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

edoceo wrote: post #188

vlovich123 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doesn't really justify the decision to use the same deployment system responsible for the 11/18 outage There’s no other deployment system available. There’s a single system for config deployment and it’s all that was available as they haven’t yet done the progressive roll out implementation yet.

Ok. Sure But shouldn't they have some beta/staging/test area they could deploy to, run tests for an hour then do the global blast?