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Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Can you explain this a bit more? What is closed about it?

The operating system (Sailfish OS) is a mix of components, some open and some closed. Search for "open source" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS . They have said years ago that it would be open sourced, but as far as I know the Silica UI is still proprietary.

It was mainly the investors that didn't want to move. Many things were stagnant that needed moving. Now that the investors are gone there is a chance to move things, and slowly things are moving into open sourcing their software.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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I love the idea of the privacy switch, but I want more: I want a hard, electromechanical switch for each of: Mic, camera, GPS, wifi, cell, bluetooth. These can be tiny and aesthetically pleasing, as long as I can easily flip on/off the one I want. The problem with having a single button, even configurable, is that it's all-or-nothing, and I might want different things at different times. But thanks so much for taking…

If it catches traction, there will be usb-connected phone cases that expose these switches to physical controls.

I do not really understand what you mean by this. Can you elaborate or clarify what you mean?

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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What 5-ish inch screen phone has even been released within the past 5 years? The only ones I can think of are the Unihertz phones, and those don't get a single update after getting shoved out the door, not to mention that they're probably full of Chinese backdoors. I'd buy that exact phone in a heartbeat if it didn't have those problems, and all the other ones I've seen have similar dealbreakers.

iPhone had the 12 and 13 mini, but they didn't sell, so there was no iPhone 14 mini and hasn't been one since. That was a 5.4" display.

> but they didn't sell

What do you call "didn't sell" ? In numbers.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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I went down a 1-minute rabbithole. I hate Whatsapp, but it's not optional. So I was curious if it's compatible. There's a Sailfish help page [0] showing how to get the APK from Aptoide, or downloading directly from Whatsapp.com . But with Google killing off 'sideloading', is it credible that independent APK sources are going to dry up in future? [0] https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Help_Articles/Whatsapp_S...

”I hate Whatsapp, but it's not optional”

Yes it is.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell

Small phones are also way less addictive. It's not in the interest of the mobile ecosystem.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Supply chain has left us. Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 screens, with none of the colour accuracy, frame-rate etc improvements from the last 10 years). People don't like "old spec", so they'd probably not buy those devices. If you're a small player, then you're downstream of the supply chain, you don't make the rules.…

> colour accuracy, frame-rate Absolutely irrelevant for what I do with a phone, and I'd wager that 90% of users would not notice the difference.

I had iPhone 12 Mini and then 14 and now 17. I can't practically tell the difference except for battery life, weight, and size.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Are you really telling me that people wouldn't look at the spec-sheet and state (loudly) that they won't buy a phone because "in 2025 it doesn't even have 120fps"? I don't believe you if that's the case.

I've never looked at the spec sheet when I bought a phone.

yet, every time there’s a “niche” product that people asked for on HN the first comment is almost always about specifications being out of date

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The operating system (Sailfish OS) is a mix of components, some open and some closed. Search for "open source" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS . They have said years ago that it would be open sourced, but as far as I know the Silica UI is still proprietary.

It was mainly the investors that didn't want to move. Many things were stagnant that needed moving. Now that the investors are gone there is a chance to move things, and slowly things are moving into open sourcing their software.

That's nice, thanks for mentioning it. Is there anywhere we can read about this?

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

#129

I went down a 1-minute rabbithole. I hate Whatsapp, but it's not optional. So I was curious if it's compatible. There's a Sailfish help page [0] showing how to get the APK from Aptoide, or downloading directly from Whatsapp.com . But with Google killing off 'sideloading', is it credible that independent APK sources are going to dry up in future? [0] https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Help_Articles/Whatsapp_S...

”I hate Whatsapp, but it's not optional” Yes it is.

To rephrase: Social contact is ultimately higher in my needs than technology choice.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What 5-ish inch screen phone has even been released within the past 5 years? The only ones I can think of are the Unihertz phones, and those don't get a single update after getting shoved out the door, not to mention that they're probably full of Chinese backdoors. I'd buy that exact phone in a heartbeat if it didn't have those problems, and all the other ones I've seen have similar dealbreakers.

iPhone had the 12 and 13 mini, but they didn't sell, so there was no iPhone 14 mini and hasn't been one since. That was a 5.4" display.

I cherish my iPhone 12 Mini and treat it with great care as it is the form factor I want and I want it to last as long as possible.
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