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Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

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Re: Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing to keep in mind when judging what's 'appropriate' is that Cloudflare was effectively responding to an ongoing security incident outside of their control (the React Server RCE vulnerability). Part of Cloudlfare's value proposition is being quick to react to such threats. That changes the equation a bit: any hour you wait longer to deploy, your customers are actively getting hacked through a known high-severi…

the cve isn't a zero day though how come cloudflare werent at the table for early disclosure?

Do you have a public source about an embargo period for this one? I wasn't able to find one

Re: Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

#115

> provides customers with protection against malicious payloads, allowing them to be detected and blocked. To do this, Cloudflare’s proxy buffers HTTP request body content in memory for analysis. I have a mixed feeling about this. On the other hand, I absolutely don't want a CDN to look inside my payloads and decide what's good for me or. Today it's protection, tomorrow it's censorship. At the same time this is exact…

We need a decentralized ddos mitigation network based on incentives. Donate X amount of bandwidth, get Y amount of protection from other peers. Yes, we gotta do TLS inspection on every end for effective L7 mitigation but at least filtering can be done without decrypting any packets

Re: Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of comment I wish he would ignore. You can be angry - but that doesn't help anyone. They fucked up, yes, they admitted it and they provided plans on how to address that. I don't think they do these things on purpose. Of course given their good market penetration they end up disrupting a lot of customers - and they should focus on slow rollouts - but I also believe that in a DDOS protection system (or…

I hope he doesn't ignore it, the internet has been forgiving enough toward cloudflares string of failures..its getting pretty old, and creates a ton of choas. I work with life saving devices, being impacted in any way in data monitoring has a huge impact in many ways. "sorry ma'am we can't give your child t1d readings on your follow app because our provider decided to break everything in the pursuit of some react bug…

Half your medical devices are probably opening up data leakage to China.

https://www.csoonline.com/article/3814810/backdoor-in-chines...

Most hospital and healthcare IT teams are extremely under funded, undertrained, overworked, and the software, configurations and platforms are normally not the most resilient things.

I have a friend at one in the North East right now going through a hell of a security breach for multiple months now and I'm flabbergasted no one is dead yet.

When it comes to tech, I get the impression most organizations are not very "healthy" in the durability of systems.

Re: Cloudflare outage on December 5, 2025

#117
The interesting part:

After rolling out a bad ruleset update, they tried a killswitch (rolled out immediately to 100%) which was a code path never executed before:

> However, we have never before applied a killswitch to a rule with an action of “execute”. When the killswitch was applied, the code correctly skipped the evaluation of the execute action, and didn’t evaluate the sub-ruleset pointed to by it. However, an error was then encountered while processing the overall results of evaluating the ruleset

> a straightforward error in the code, which had existed undetected for many years

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