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Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

cosmicgadget wrote: post #133
SanjayMehta wrote: post #118

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What Russian war crimes? While the US commits nothing but war crimes.

You can be anti-west without being a Putin apologist.

In 1971, when the war criminals Nixon and Kissinger tried to STOP India from intervening in the genocide in East Pakistan, it was the USSR which helped us rescue millions and create the country of Bangladesh.

Russia on the other hand never tried to invade India, despite the Russophobic British spreading lies since they got a whooping in the Crimean war in 1856. [0]

As for the famines caused by the British in India, and the utterly vile conversions executed by the portoguese in Goa using industrial tools like breast-rippers, the less said the better. [1]

[0] https://academic.oup.com/psq/article-abstract/66/4/618/72516...

[1] https://wikibharat.org/pages/francis_xavier_and_inquisition_...

I suggest you stop regurgitating propaganda.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by Lapsa »

Lapsa wrote: post #123
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #5

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Everybody in Russia who is not a complete idiot already has a VPN that allows to circumvent censorship (for now). Source: I'm in Russia now. In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses, and that will indeed insure that nobody would be able to access banned resources.

I would argue use of VPN is idiotic

for (likely corrupt) down voters - one argument would be that it's basically a subscription to browser fingerprinting. vpn providers even openly state when such doings will begin

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by throwaway290 »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #136
throwaway290 wrote: post #99

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Must be nice. Now imagine living not so close to "center" (the mostly white west of the country). They test more advanced blocking in the regions first because people don't complain so much. Same logic with contractors, most people are recruited to the war from these regions. Why? because they are poor and watch tv. What even is VPN? another ploy by anglo-saxons?;) Basically I'll tell you it's like this: 60% chance y…

> Now imagine living not so close to "center" (the mostly white west of the country) You seem to have a very limited understanding of Russia. First, nobody in Russia ever thinks of its population in racial terms like 'white'. At most, there are ethnic terms like 'russians', 'caucasians' [0], 'tatars', 'yakuts', etc. -- there aren't even any genuine Asians here but the students from China. And no, thanks to the soviet…

I think you are living in a different Russia.

There is a good reason to use the term "white" and that is because non-whites (you know what I mean) are discriminated. I have various stories but I won't go in detail. I don't blame you, I didn't really think about it in that way for most of my life.

And if you talk to more normal people you may find out that it's not just force, many people follow "party line" because they think the government says truth. Control of information is a magical thing

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by [deleted] »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #118
mopsi wrote: post #97

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The other day I saw Judge Napolitano calling for Hegseth to be prosecuted as a war criminal for ordering a second strike on the survivors of a boat strike. This happened on Newsmax, which is ultra partisan and very pro-Trump. And even they are not always following the party line. Nothing of this sort happens in Russia anymore. The Kremlin has full editorial control over all media outlets. What they want published get…

What Russian war crimes? While the US commits nothing but war crimes.

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Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by mopsi »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #141
cosmicgadget wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can be anti-west without being a Putin apologist.

In 1971, when the war criminals Nixon and Kissinger tried to STOP India from intervening in the genocide in East Pakistan, it was the USSR which helped us rescue millions and create the country of Bangladesh. Russia on the other hand never tried to invade India, despite the Russophobic British spreading lies since they got a whooping in the Crimean war in 1856. [0] As for the famines caused by the British in India, a…

In Eastern Europe, the USSR acted like the British in India, and Russia continues that tradition.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by SanjayMehta »

mopsi wrote: post #145
SanjayMehta wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1971, when the war criminals Nixon and Kissinger tried to STOP India from intervening in the genocide in East Pakistan, it was the USSR which helped us rescue millions and create the country of Bangladesh. Russia on the other hand never tried to invade India, despite the Russophobic British spreading lies since they got a whooping in the Crimean war in 1856. [0] As for the famines caused by the British in India, a…

In Eastern Europe, the USSR acted like the British in India, and Russia continues that tradition.

Eastern Europe collaborated with the Nazis to attack the USSR. You may not know your own history but I do.

Case in point: The Ukraine (Stepan Bandera) and Poland. Look it up.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by cosmicgadget »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #146
mopsi wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Eastern Europe, the USSR acted like the British in India, and Russia continues that tradition.

Eastern Europe collaborated with the Nazis to attack the USSR. You may not know your own history but I do. Case in point: The Ukraine (Stepan Bandera) and Poland. Look it up.

Don't the Soviets get the mark of death for collaborating with the Nazis to divide Poland?

Did any part of India do anything objectionable pre-occupation such that you could apply the same "they had it coming" argument?

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by mopsi »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #146
mopsi wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Eastern Europe, the USSR acted like the British in India, and Russia continues that tradition.

Eastern Europe collaborated with the Nazis to attack the USSR. You may not know your own history but I do. Case in point: The Ukraine (Stepan Bandera) and Poland. Look it up.

The USSR had starved millions of Ukrainians to death before the Nazis even rose to power. Mirrors the British hunger games in India.

If you want to excuse and trivialize the suffering caused by Russians in Eastern Europe, then by the same token you trivialize the suffering of Indians under British rule. All the same excuses apply: some Bandera-Ramachandran surely conspired against the British and therefore the Bengal famine is your own fault.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by cosmicgadget »

defrost wrote: post #139
cosmicgadget wrote: post #130

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Wikileaks isn't censored in the US. To say that government employees being instructed to respect the classification of public documents is... certainly one interpretation of censorship. Libel isn't media that is censored in the US and available internationally.

Was the statements made by Jimmy Kimmel Libel? Did senior figures in the crrent US administration successfully (temporarily) have the entire show pulled? The US practices censorship - it's not overt, the fish can't see the water, but it's there via manufactured consent. Returning to the actual question I addressed: > Could you share an example of some censored media in the US that's available elsewhere? Wikileaks is…

There's no doubt the current administration is waging a war of suppression against anything they consider opposed to them. So Kimmel, Perkins Coie, visa holders/applicants... they are the target of mob tactics where censorship via retaliation is but one of the coercive effects.

It might be that our system's reliance on norms has been exposed as a fatal flaw. On the other hand, the executive is only wielding its discretionary powers, so the current campaign of censorship may only last this term. We haven't put up a great firewall. We haven't nationalized news media.

The Wikileaks thing is so minimal that if you wanted to provide examples of US censorship you should have said CSAM and been done with it. The site was not blocked in the US. It didn't affect anyone but federal employees and clearance holders. No one could go to prison for viewing the leaked documents. And wikileaks wasn't arbitrarily targeted, there is a longstanding, opt-in employment policy that classification and need to know apply even to spillages.

Re: Russia Bans Roblox

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Post by platevoltage »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #138
platevoltage wrote: post #128

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I'm sure it was a value to at least some people. Nothing of value would be lost for me if Fox News was banned. It's still censorship.

They moved on to Instagram and X. I can't tell the difference between CNN and Fox. They're all liars.

They are all liars, but if you can't tell the difference, you aren't paying attention.
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