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BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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I think Nissan is a bit underrated here. I’m leasing an Ariya which has been great (including its charging curve, which is better than much of the competition) and feels more premium than you’d expect from the brand (to the point that the top trim is sometimes referred to as a “baby Infiniti”) with things like dual pane windows to cut down on road noise, as well as a proper heat pump where many still only have resist…

> The 2026 Leaf takes many of the Ariya’s good qualities and one ups them at one of the lowest price points in the industry. Still costs $30k+ USD for base trim. Chinese cars are going for sub-$20k. Few governments want a repeat of the Japanese disruption of US/European car manufacturing, so they were banned before getting the opportunity.

I’d love to see a ~$20k EV too, but it’s gonna be tough to pull that off without China’s cheap labor and materials, at least until EVs start moving at the kind of volumes that traditional ICE and hybrid vehicles sell at.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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There are tons of used BMWs on the used market here in the states. They don't hold their value because everyone knows that some stupid thing is wrong with them that either can't be fixed or is so ludicrously costly to fix that it would be more than the whole entire car is worth. BMW is a shit company, doesn't matter if it is ICE or EV or whatever it is, they're intentionally made to be impossible to repair cheaply. I…

The Ultimate Leasing Machine, as it were

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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post #29

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> The 2026 Leaf takes many of the Ariya’s good qualities and one ups them at one of the lowest price points in the industry. Still costs $30k+ USD for base trim. Chinese cars are going for sub-$20k. Few governments want a repeat of the Japanese disruption of US/European car manufacturing, so they were banned before getting the opportunity.

I’d love to see a ~$20k EV too, but it’s gonna be tough to pull that off without China’s cheap labor and materials, at least until EVs start moving at the kind of volumes that traditional ICE and hybrid vehicles sell at.

Prices are always set in a manner in order to optimize for margins.

Heck, the Volvo EX30 is for all intents and purposes a Zeekr X, yet sells for US$40k a year in Australia despite Australia having an automotive FTA with China (ie. no tariffs against Chinese exported cars).

On the other hand, a similarly specced Zeekr X sells for US$24k a year in Mainland China.

Tl;dr - you will never see a $20k EV in the US or Canada because even if a Chinese firm was allowed to export into the market, they would be leaving too much money on the table.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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"I think it continues to be under-appreciated how much of a lead Tesla still has in EVs". As long as you don't compare them to BYD etc.

as long as you don’t compare them to any car. teslas in 2025 belong in a museum lol I own tesla s 2014, my neighbour has 2025, same car. tesla x was cool… in 2017. tesla 3 is like a worse looking kia and model y is like if you took tesla 3 and pumped some air in it.

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Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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This is exactly why I’m so uninterested in driving en EV. I usually word it as “I don’t want to drive a computer”, but the reality is that I don’t want to be on the wrong end of the power imbalance that comes from this amount of complexity.

EV and "driving a computer" are orthogonal

chances are that you are driving an ICE computer, with all the problems driving a computer comes with.

the EV itself is simpler than ICE is. fewer moving parts, and short supply chains once you actually have the thing.

how much complexity goes into making and supplying your gas?

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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"I think it continues to be under-appreciated how much of a lead Tesla still has in EVs". As long as you don't compare them to BYD etc.

as long as you don’t compare them to any car. teslas in 2025 belong in a museum lol I own tesla s 2014, my neighbour has 2025, same car. tesla x was cool… in 2017. tesla 3 is like a worse looking kia and model y is like if you took tesla 3 and pumped some air in it.

If all you care about is looks, that is. Get out of any other car and you forget you can't just walk away from it and it'll shut itself off and lock the doors. I've had my Tesla driving friends drive my ICE car, and then not even turn off the engine when they go into the store because you don't need to do that with a Tesla.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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If you love cars or Top Gear, watch Mat Armstrong on YouTube. Mat restores crash damaged cars. The BS he has to go through because car manufacturers either won't sell him parts, won't sell him repair manuals, and unnecessarily cryptographically lock parts to the VIN is sometime heartbreaking. He has run across this pyro fuse issue many times. Sometimes he has even has to buy two cars just to repair one because of thi…

Bumping this. Mat went through the exact same crazy process with the Revuelto. Audi/Lamborghini overengineers the heck out of these cars its really absurd.

https://youtu.be/m37tN54FdQE?si=zXCnQTCOou13l10O

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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post #8

I think it continues to be under-appreciated how much of a lead Tesla still has in EVs. Even BMW can't make something that is practical. First people said "competition is coming" for about a decade. Now the competition has finally half arrived, but it's still so far behind. Perhaps the closest is BYD, but most BYD drivers would prefer to be driving a Tesla.

> Even BMW can't make something that is practical.

Hyperbole, but essentially true

The Japanese beat everybody when ICE ruled. Their cars were miles ahead on every measure except snob value.

In the the of EV it will be the Chinese. Tesla has no hope of keeping up, they are already fallen behind on snob value, their cars have none now.

I think the comment about BYD drivers preferring Tesla is out of date now. Ti e will tell, but my money is on China

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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post #2

This is exactly why I’m so uninterested in driving en EV. I usually word it as “I don’t want to drive a computer”, but the reality is that I don’t want to be on the wrong end of the power imbalance that comes from this amount of complexity.

In principle and EV car should be much simpler than an ICE car. It seems they are adding a lot of extra stuff that's not really necessary.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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After reading the blog post I had the same thought. Doing an oil change on my F650GS motorcycle required removing the plastics, draining the oil from both the top and bottom of the motorcycle, removing a plate on the side of the engine after install the BMW specified oil redirection funnel, extracting the filter and reinstalling. The oil funnel had a legit BMW part number. Most of us either just made a mess or used a…

It's basically the plot of the Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

Back then they should just let the oil go on the side of road. No need to capture it
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